Metamorphic Transfer - 3/day or 9/day ?

[Thanee]

Each time you change your form, such as through the metamorphosis power, you gain one of the new form’s supernatural abilities, if it has any. You gain only three uses of the metamorphic ability per day, even if the creature into which you metamorph has a higher limit on uses (You are still subject to other restrictions on the use of the ability.) The save DC to resist a supernatural ability gained through Metamorphic Transfer (if it is an attack) is 10 + your Cha modifier + 1/2 your Hit Dice.


No matter how many times you manifest the metamorphosis power on a given day, you can gain only a total of three supernatural ability transfers per day.

So what is a supernatural ability transfer!?

Is it a use of any supernatural ability transferred via the Metamorphic Transfer feat (but why would they call it transfer then?), which would limit the feat to a total of 3 uses/day whatsoever, or is it the process of gaining a supernatural ability (certainly this is more probable given the language, or not?), which would result in a total of 3x3 uses/day (three transfers each can be used three times per day)?

What do you think?

Note: I'm not speaking of what would be more balanced (that's fairly easy to decide ), but rather what is actually meant there.

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Thanee

 

[Thanee]

Additional question: What is a use of a continuous ability, like the Choker's Quickness, or the Pixie's Greater Invisibility. Is it one round of using the ability or is it only one use to transfer this ability and use it for the duration of the metamorphosis? In the latter specific case also, is activating or deactivating the ability a use?

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Thanee

 

[Scion]

3 uses per day.

"Each time you change your form, such as through the metamorphosis power, you gain one of the new form’s supernatural abilities, if it has any."

Ok, good enough, you are treated as having whichever (Su) ability you like that it has when you change into a form.

"You gain only three uses of the metamorphic ability per day, even if the creature into which you metamorph has a higher limit on uses (You are still subject to other restrictions on the use of the ability.)"

However, even though you have access to the ability this feat still puts limits on it. You only gain 3 total uses per day of the metamorphic ability (ie metamorphic transfer). So you may use any different (Su) abilities but only for a total between them all of 3 times per day.

Sortof like your character currently has an ability that states something like, 'whenever you are in a form other than your own which has a supernatural ability this ability duplicates its effects. You may only duplicate effects of supernatural abilities 3 times per day.' The last line can still be read in a choppy fashion, which is where the problem comes in because english isnt always the easiest language to use.

"No matter how many times you manifest the metamorphosis power on a given day, you can gain only a total of three supernatural ability transfers per day."

This is the people who write the errata trying to make the feat even clearer, although personally I thought it was fine before so long as people didnt try to read it in a strange way

Seems pretty cut and dry, especially with the errata tossed in.

 

[Shard O'Glase]

I'm guessing 3 times total. That's what I assumed they meant before the errata at least, I'm not sure which is more poorly written the errata or the original.

I don't know about the continous use part. I'm guessing since they didn't write in a limit it lasts for the duration of the metamorphasis. I'd say though that turning an ability on and off counts as a use. Personally I'd put some limit on the duration of continuous use assuming I let this in at all maybe like a max of 1 round a level or something.

 

[Thanee]

Well, Scion, you should know, that without adding something to the uses/day sentence in the original feat description, which the errata did not do, it really doesn't say that.

However, it's very well possible, that this is exactly what they want to say with the errata, but why in gods name do they have to use this completely undefined supernatural ability transfer term there, which furthermore certainly points more to the actual gaining of the supernatural ability as opposed to the use of it, which would then be another limit?

From what they write there, it really sounds like you can transfer a supernatural ability 3/day (regardless of how often you manifest metamorphosis (this has to be read synonymous for any such ability, since the feat is not limited to this specific power)) and the ability you gain also has a 3/day limit (each time you manifest metamorphosis, as per the feat description (without adding content, that changes what is written there )).

So, 3 times per day you can transfer an ability, with 3 uses per day each.
That's what it says, but is that really what it means?

I tend to agree, that they are trying to say, that it can only be used 3/day total, in any combination, but they certainly have a hard time to express themselves there.

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Thanee