Mettle ability & spell list inquiry

[Vykarius]

Hoping perhaps any of you might know of a Consolidated list of spells of which the Hexblade & Pious Templar ability of Mettle would effect. Such spells having in their description for saving throw as: Fortitude Partial/HalforWill Partial/Half.

Thanks in advance for any lists or PDF or link I maybe pointed toward. Again for those not wanting 2 burden the forum in reply are welcome & encouraged to email me any feedback at Vykarius@gmail.comB-)

~Vykarius the Intrepid

 

[Runestar]

here is a small list I managed to dig up, courtesy of Lord Pendragon. Core only, apparently. If anyone has compiled a list of non-core spells, please expand.

Spells that are Fortitude: Partial
Chill Touch
Cloudkill
Destruction
Disintegrate
Finger of Death
Phantasmal Killer
Prismatic Spray
Prismatic Wall
Ray of Exhaustion
Shout
Shout, Greater
Slay Living
Sound Burst

Spells that are Will: Partial
Cause Fear
Chaos Hammer
Fear
Inflict spells
Harm
Holy Smite
Order's Wrath
Scare
Unholy Blight

 

[Aus_Snow]

Searching the SRD, there was also [Shatter, Blight, Horrid Wilting] for Fortitude half, and [(all the Cure spells)] for Will half.

Note that a few of those are rather case-specific or even harmless, but were mentioned here for the sake of completeness.

And, thanks to someone (can't recall who, unfortunately) here is a [possibly accurate and complete, possibly not] list of non-core spells that Mettle might affect. It came from somewhere on the webs. . .

[sblock=Non-core Mettle spells]Will partial/half

Arcane Turmoil
Blade of Pain and Fear
Caterwaul
Close Wounds
Darkbolt
Deific Vengeance
Divine Retribution
Faith Healing
Flashburst
Healing Touch
Horror of the Spoken Name
Impede
Interminable Echo
Karmic Aura
Languor
Light of Courage
Mark of Sin
Maw of Chaos
Moon Lust
Opalescent Glare
Panacea
Radiant Assault
Rebuke, Final
Reciprocal Gyre
Retributive Image
Shadowy Grappler
Sonic Blast
Sonic Snap
Sting Ray
Wail of Doom
Warp Truename
Weight of Sin


Fortitude partial/half

Aligned Aura
Arboreal Transformation
Arrow of Bone
Avascular Mass
Avasculate
Blackfire
Blackrot
Blast of Force
Blistering Radiance
Blood to Water
Boiling Blood
Burning Blood
Burst of Glacial Wrath
Cacophonic Shield
Castigate
Caustic Smoke
Channeled Sound Blast
Choking Cobwebs
Claws of Darkness
Cold Fire
Creeping Cold
Crumble
Deadly Sunstroke
Deafening Blast
Deafening Clang
Death's Call
Defenestrating Sphere
Demon Dirge
Devil Blight
Dissonant Chord
Energy Ebb
Eradicate Earth
Extract Water Elemental
Fever Dream
Finger of Agony
Fire and Brimstone
Flensing
Fleshshiver
Ghoul Gesture
Ghoul Glyph
Heartfire
Heatstroke
Horrid Sickness
Hypothermia
Ice Knife
Icelance
Lion's Roar
Magical Backlash
Melf's Slumber Arrows
Miasma of Entropy
Moon Bolt
Night's Caress
Orb of Acid
Painful Echoes
Phantasmal Assailants
Prismatic Ray [Green only]
Red Tide
Resonating Agony
Resounding Thunder
Rot of Ages
Saltray
Sound Lance
Sphere of Ultimate Destruction
Spore Field
Starvation
Stone Shatter
Stun Ray
Thunderous Roar
Touch of the Graveborn
Touch of Vecna
Tsunami
Wall of Smoke
Wall of Vermin
Weight of Sin
Whirlwind, Greater
Wooden Blight
Wracking Touch[/sblock]

 

[Shin Okada]

All the non-lessor Orb spells except for Force are Fortitude Partial.

 

[Runestar]

How would mettle interact with the orb spells? I don't think making your fort save is supposed to allow you to negate all the damage it deals, does it?

It seems that it is more of damage first, then the target makes a save to see if the secondary effect applies or not. Meaning that mettle would be useless in this context, as the damage cannot be prevented since it has already occured...

 

[Shin Okada]

How would mettle interact with the orb spells? I don't think making your fort save is supposed to allow you to negate all the damage it deals, does it?

It seems that it is more of damage first, then the target makes a save to see if the secondary effect applies or not. Meaning that mettle would be useless in this context, as the damage cannot be prevented since it has already occured...

Spells are magic. And Mettle is a kind of magical power, too. If you can completely negate all the damages from fireball while continually standing in the center of the burst (with evasion/improved evasion), anything may happen.

Maybe "partial" spells with damages have some kind of "withstandable if you are tough enough" nature from the beginning.

 

[NewJeffCT]

How would mettle interact with the orb spells? I don't think making your fort save is supposed to allow you to negate all the damage it deals, does it?

It seems that it is more of damage first, then the target makes a save to see if the secondary effect applies or not. Meaning that mettle would be useless in this context, as the damage cannot be prevented since it has already occured...

I was wondering that as well - some necromantic spells have no save for the actual damage, but then you need to make a Fort or Will save to negate additional damage (like Fatigue, Exhaustion, etc)

Avasculate from the SpC - it's a ranged touch attack that deals half the target's hit points in damage. However, you also need to make a Fort save, or else you're stunned for one round. Does Mettle negate both the stunning effect and the damage?

 

[Asha'man]

Absolutely, as long as the Save line is Fort/Will half/partial. I mean, that's what it's for.

 

[Vykarius]

here is a small list I managed to dig up, courtesy of Lord Pendragon. Core only, apparently. If anyone has compiled a list of non-core spells, please expand.

Spells that are Fortitude: Partial
Chill Touch
Cloudkill
Destruction
Disintegrate
Finger of Death
Phantasmal Killer
Prismatic Spray
Prismatic Wall
Ray of Exhaustion
Shout
Shout, Greater
Slay Living
Sound Burst

Spells that are Will: Partial
Cause Fear
Chaos Hammer
Fear
Inflict spells
Harm
Holy Smite
Order's Wrath
Scare
Unholy Blight

Searching the SRD, there was also [Shatter, Blight, Horrid Wilting] for Fortitude half, and [(all the Cure spells)] for Will half.

Note that a few of those are rather case-specific or even harmless, but were mentioned here for the sake of completeness.

And, thanks to someone (can't recall who, unfortunately) here is a [possibly accurate and complete, possibly not] list of non-core spells that Mettle might affect. It came from somewhere on the webs. . .

[sblock=Non-core Mettle spells]Will partial/half

Arcane Turmoil
Blade of Pain and Fear
Caterwaul
Close Wounds
Darkbolt
Deific Vengeance
Divine Retribution
Faith Healing
Flashburst
Healing Touch
Horror of the Spoken Name
Impede
Interminable Echo
Karmic Aura
Languor
Light of Courage
Mark of Sin
Maw of Chaos
Moon Lust
Opalescent Glare
Panacea
Radiant Assault
Rebuke, Final
Reciprocal Gyre
Retributive Image
Shadowy Grappler
Sonic Blast
Sonic Snap
Sting Ray
Wail of Doom
Warp Truename
Weight of Sin


Fortitude partial/half

Aligned Aura
Arboreal Transformation
Arrow of Bone
Avascular Mass
Avasculate
Blackfire
Blackrot
Blast of Force
Blistering Radiance
Blood to Water
Boiling Blood
Burning Blood
Burst of Glacial Wrath
Cacophonic Shield
Castigate
Caustic Smoke
Channeled Sound Blast
Choking Cobwebs
Claws of Darkness
Cold Fire
Creeping Cold
Crumble
Deadly Sunstroke
Deafening Blast
Deafening Clang
Death's Call
Defenestrating Sphere
Demon Dirge
Devil Blight
Dissonant Chord
Energy Ebb
Eradicate Earth
Extract Water Elemental
Fever Dream
Finger of Agony
Fire and Brimstone
Flensing
Fleshshiver
Ghoul Gesture
Ghoul Glyph
Heartfire
Heatstroke
Horrid Sickness
Hypothermia
Ice Knife
Icelance
Lion's Roar
Magical Backlash
Melf's Slumber Arrows
Miasma of Entropy
Moon Bolt
Night's Caress
Orb of Acid
Painful Echoes
Phantasmal Assailants
Prismatic Ray [Green only]
Red Tide
Resonating Agony
Resounding Thunder
Rot of Ages
Saltray
Sound Lance
Sphere of Ultimate Destruction
Spore Field
Starvation
Stone Shatter
Stun Ray
Thunderous Roar
Touch of the Graveborn
Touch of Vecna
Tsunami
Wall of Smoke
Wall of Vermin
Weight of Sin
Whirlwind, Greater
Wooden Blight
Wracking Touch[/sblock]

Thank you very much! Awfully kind of you to find and post the list for me. Much appreciated.

 

[kinem]

How would mettle interact with the orb spells? I don't think making your fort save is supposed to allow you to negate all the damage it deals, does it?

Yeah, evasion and mettle should be restricted with some common sense house rules.