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[MHB] +6 on all attributes for 200,000 ?
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<blockquote data-quote="FrankTrollman" data-source="post: 1208135" data-attributes="member: 14225"><p>It's +3 to <em>one</em> save. Which is like a Charisma bonus of equal size except that it is one third as big, doesn't add to lay-on hands, doesn't add to smite evil, and allows you to get some crappy little spells.</p><p></p><p>Did I just say crappy little spells? I sure did! You'd get Holy Sword faster by multiclassing into Cleric Levels and taking the Glory Domain. Paladin Spells suck with <em>both hands</em> - so holding them up as "worthwhile" is a joke. They aren't even worth taking the class to get - let alone taking the class <em>and</em> having to bogart otherwise useless stat bonuses for.</p><p></p><p>Wisdom is less than 1/3 as good for a Paldin as Charisma is - and is thusly completely lame. And of course, in 3.5 Enhancement Bonuses to Intellect do not carry over into skill points, rendering that portion of the item <em>completely worthless</em>.</p><p></p><p>So the Paladin gives a damn about 4 stats (maybe only three if he already has a Dex of 16). That's a lot, but a bonus to 4 stats with the cost increase for being multipurpose on one item would still only cost 198,000 gp - and the item in question costs slightly more than that. So for the Paladin, it's a pretty good deal - 3 good stat increases, one moderate stat increase, one minor stat increase, and a meaningless stat bump all for the price you'd pay for 4 stat increases if they were all good.</p><p></p><p>What's the problem?</p><p></p><p>-Frank</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FrankTrollman, post: 1208135, member: 14225"] It's +3 to [i]one[/i] save. Which is like a Charisma bonus of equal size except that it is one third as big, doesn't add to lay-on hands, doesn't add to smite evil, and allows you to get some crappy little spells. Did I just say crappy little spells? I sure did! You'd get Holy Sword faster by multiclassing into Cleric Levels and taking the Glory Domain. Paladin Spells suck with [i]both hands[/i] - so holding them up as "worthwhile" is a joke. They aren't even worth taking the class to get - let alone taking the class [i]and[/i] having to bogart otherwise useless stat bonuses for. Wisdom is less than 1/3 as good for a Paldin as Charisma is - and is thusly completely lame. And of course, in 3.5 Enhancement Bonuses to Intellect do not carry over into skill points, rendering that portion of the item [i]completely worthless[/i]. So the Paladin gives a damn about 4 stats (maybe only three if he already has a Dex of 16). That's a lot, but a bonus to 4 stats with the cost increase for being multipurpose on one item would still only cost 198,000 gp - and the item in question costs slightly more than that. So for the Paladin, it's a pretty good deal - 3 good stat increases, one moderate stat increase, one minor stat increase, and a meaningless stat bump all for the price you'd pay for 4 stat increases if they were all good. What's the problem? -Frank [/QUOTE]
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