D&D 4E Mike Mearls on how 4E could have looked

[Garthanos]

I read all of the books: Rand was never unstoppable or untouchable.

A room full of very powerful Aes Sedai yeh I am just not buying your spookie ten men with swords. that assertion is a joke.

Not unstoppable sure and this incarnation of Arthur Hawkwing put his sword in the stone because he wanted to be completely stoppable.

 

[Garthanos]

Actually if you had participated in the weekly hobgoblin virgin and first born sacrifice you too could fire some lightning bolts with it.

A lot of villain or civilian magic really could be wrapped in this narrative. Note it didnt require a magic staff to throw lightning bolts at least for a PC.

 

[Parmandur]

A room full of very powerful Aes Sedai yeh I am just not buying your spookie ten men with swords. that assertion is a joke.

Not unstoppable sure and this incarnation of Arthur Hawkwing put his sword in the stone because he wanted to be completely stoppable.

You didn't notice the "shielded" part.

 

[Garthanos]

You didn't notice the "shielded" part.

Oh yeh if we cut off someones nads they wont be able to procreate either...

 

[Garthanos]

To be honest 3e probably did a better job of representing Rand but I think Matrim was a 4e Warlord (with some rogue mixed in)

 

[Garthanos]

I guess my problem with a "lucky" character is that it kind of ignores the luck of the attack roll. For me the luck is the monster rolling a 1 and missing or my character rolling a save and succeeding. That was lucky.

Gygax definitely put luck in there

It also clashes with any luck mechanics in the game. A lucky 5e Halfling can reroll an attack but your lucky character cant.

A Luck Blade gives you a bonus to your saves and Wishes!

How do you call that clashing?

So the lucky halfling doesnt get bonuses on saves and wishes how disgusting and disonnent kill the game?????

 

[Parmandur]

Oh yeh if we cut off someones nads they wont be able to procreate either...

Shielded isn't Gentled: it even happened to him in the books, and he became obsessed with the potential dangers he faced.

 

[Garthanos]

Well when you put a superman in the game it behoves you to put Kryptonite in the story it when it takes extreme/weird measures like inducing a oath bound hero like Cu Chulainn to eat dog to defeat him that is evidence of power and how normal circumstances really arent a threat....

It is by no means evidence they are somehow within reach of low level threats.

 

[Shasarak]

Gygax definitely put luck in there

How do you call that clashing?

So the lucky halfling doesnt get bonuses on saves and wishes how disgusting and disonnent kill the game?????

To be fair one was a 5e reference to keep the Jester happy and one was an ADnD reference. 5e does not really have real Wishes.

 

[Garthanos]

Take Lancelot sleeping off a berserk or super extreme session of self recrimination,and then ignore that even while bare assed naked he could defeat a complement of armed and armored round table knights.