Mike Mearls On the OGL

[xechnao]

I still expect an OGL 4e clone to be cobbled together out of any and all open material that resembles, but pre-dates, elements of the 4e system.

Again I want to say that for OGL to be able to stand on its feet it must stop following D&D and grow strong on its own merits. What you are claiming here is not any help for OGL growing eventually stronger.

 

[Storyteller01]

Again I want to say that for OGL to be able to stand on its feet it must stop following D&D and grow strong on its own merits. What you are claiming here is not a help to OGL growing eventually stronger.

RUmor is that Paizo is attempting to create a backwards compatible 3.5, and if anyone could re-establish the OGL it would be them. Unfortunately, those rumors were heard before the GSL release. I haven't heard anything since.

 

[xechnao]

If we can't afford to carry 4th ed, why would we consider carrying OGL, or even GSL, something that regularly sells less than D&D itself by simple advangtages of time in the market and a bigger production budget?

Because in the rpg hobby support comes with the territory. Rpg consumers can be producers too. It is the nature of the thing.

 

[Storyteller01]

Because in the rpg hobby support comes with the territory. Rpg consumers can be producers too.

But this is less likely to generate revinue. It's similar to saying a movie theater can survive on indie films as well as they could with the big budget productions. This is not the case for either industry. Buying a product that won't sell is lost money, not an investment.

Our LGS isn't looking to local producers. They're looking at removing RPG's altogether. And its one of the biggest hobbies stores in our state.

 

[xechnao]

RUmor is that Paizo is attempting to create a backwards compatible 3.5, and if anyone could re-establish the OGL it would be them. Unfortunately, those rumors were heard before the GSL release. I haven't heard anything since.

IMO Pathfinder can only but give oxygen to the OGL for now. It can't feed it to make it grow really.

 

[xechnao]

But this is less likely to generate revinue. It's similar to saying a movie theater can survive on indie films as well as they could with the big budget productions. This is not the case for either industry.

Yet D&D became big as an indy.

 

[Storyteller01]

IMO Pathfinder can only but give oxygen to the OGL for now. It can't feed it to make it grow really.

I wasn't looking at pathfinder. Rumors stated the paizo planned to realease a full game under the OGL, including play testing. Again, with the GSL's various clauses, I'm not sure how that will work anymore.
If the game gets bigger than D&D. wizards canpull the GSL for their 4th ed products. Not sute they could take that loss.

 

[Storyteller01]

Yet D&D became big as an indy.

Look at it in perspective. For RPG's it's the 'Gone of the Wind' of games. It isn't an indy. It is THE biggest RPG production to exist, and among the oldest. And it STILL isn't helping keep local game store afloat.

 

[xechnao]

I wasn't looking at pathfinder. Rumors stated the paizo planned to realease a full game under the OGL, including play testing. Again, with the GSL's various clauses, I'm not sure how that will work anymore.

Whatever. If it is a D20 game and not something new it still cannot feed the OGL really. This is what I am talking about.

Again, with the GSL's various clauses, I'm not sure how that will work anymore.If the game gets bigger than D&D. wizards canpull the GSL for their 4th ed products. Not sute they could take that loss.

If you are talking about Paizo I do not think what you are saying holds here. If they manage to make a game that grows bigger than D&D they will be in a better position than they are now. Unless they want to buy the D&D bran that is.

 

[xechnao]

Look at it in perspective. For RPG's it's the 'Gone of the Wind' of games. It isn't an indy. It is THE biggest RPG production to exist, and among the oldest. And it STILL isn't helping keep local game store afloat.

IMO this perspective is wrong for the health of the hobby. See what you told before about Wizards. They control D&D but what they are after fright now is quick grabs: not D&D's or the hobby's long term health.