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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 9874370" data-attributes="member: 15700"><p>I'm looking at a rules lite 5e version right now. Less than 300 pages and that includes the entire game: players rules, spells, monsters, treasure, etc. all in one book. The "How to Play" section (the rules) are 11 pages.</p><p></p><p>The free rules pdf are not the rules of the game. It's pretty typical of a quickstart guide I've seen for many systems. Just the bare essentials and those are briefly defined. In the actual game, I'm sure there are more rules (which I'm guessing are in the core rules book).</p><p></p><p>So I stand by my comment. Which was, btw, sort of tongue in cheek. I wish them all the success. But it is weird to call something "rules tight" (it most certainly isn't rule-lite, even by their own admission) and have it not much smaller than the 5e rules anyway. Breaking the books down into: core rules, PC classes, monsters, and then DM's guide doesn't make the core game that much smaller. It's just re-org. the page count is still there. And I bet dollars to donuts that when you tally the page count for the core rules, PC options, spells, monsters, treasure, and GM's section, they are more than 300 pages. And I'm pretty safe in saying the actual "how to play" rules, or the "Core Rules" book, is more than 11 pages, like the actual rules-lite 5e version I'm looking at now.</p><p></p><p>This:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]431687[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>is more than a single book, and it looks like they don't even have monsters there. That's all I'm saying. I'm comparing it to other rules-lite versions of 5e I've seen out there.</p><p></p><p>I'm not trying to criticize them--it looks like a great product. I don't want that to get lost. Just not the tagline I'd use and then show just how many pages of stuff there actually is.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 9874370, member: 15700"] I'm looking at a rules lite 5e version right now. Less than 300 pages and that includes the entire game: players rules, spells, monsters, treasure, etc. all in one book. The "How to Play" section (the rules) are 11 pages. The free rules pdf are not the rules of the game. It's pretty typical of a quickstart guide I've seen for many systems. Just the bare essentials and those are briefly defined. In the actual game, I'm sure there are more rules (which I'm guessing are in the core rules book). So I stand by my comment. Which was, btw, sort of tongue in cheek. I wish them all the success. But it is weird to call something "rules tight" (it most certainly isn't rule-lite, even by their own admission) and have it not much smaller than the 5e rules anyway. Breaking the books down into: core rules, PC classes, monsters, and then DM's guide doesn't make the core game that much smaller. It's just re-org. the page count is still there. And I bet dollars to donuts that when you tally the page count for the core rules, PC options, spells, monsters, treasure, and GM's section, they are more than 300 pages. And I'm pretty safe in saying the actual "how to play" rules, or the "Core Rules" book, is more than 11 pages, like the actual rules-lite 5e version I'm looking at now. This: [ATTACH type="full" width="455px" size="1064x634"]431687[/ATTACH] is more than a single book, and it looks like they don't even have monsters there. That's all I'm saying. I'm comparing it to other rules-lite versions of 5e I've seen out there. I'm not trying to criticize them--it looks like a great product. I don't want that to get lost. Just not the tagline I'd use and then show just how many pages of stuff there actually is. [/QUOTE]
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