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<blockquote data-quote="Lord Vangarel" data-source="post: 222473" data-attributes="member: 223">While I wouldn't exactly say my players are munchkins in the sense it is used on the boards they do tend to min/max somewhat. This got me thinking what other players do. My group sees it as simply making the best choices for the characters. For example, in the real world you wouldn't learn a skill that could earn you $10 an hour if you could learn a skill that earns $50 an hour would you?To get us started, and as an example, here is a few of ways my players make the best possible choices.Wizards - choosing a toad as a familiar, this adds +2 to Con giving a +1 hp bonus per character level!!!Wizards - summon monster, analyse the best combat ability monster for each spell and always summon that monster type.Fighters - fight with two bastard swords in a twin weapon style.Also from the DM's perspective do you allow it to continue or do you attempt to find alternatives or change the rules? Now my players know the best monster to summon for each spell does every spellcaster always summon that monster?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lord Vangarel, post: 222473, member: 223"] While I wouldn't exactly say my players are munchkins in the sense it is used on the boards they do tend to min/max somewhat. This got me thinking what other players do. My group sees it as simply making the best choices for the characters. For example, in the real world you wouldn't learn a skill that could earn you $10 an hour if you could learn a skill that earns $50 an hour would you? To get us started, and as an example, here is a few of ways my players make the best possible choices. Wizards - choosing a toad as a familiar, this adds +2 to Con giving a +1 hp bonus per character level!!! Wizards - summon monster, analyse the best combat ability monster for each spell and always summon that monster type. Fighters - fight with two bastard swords in a twin weapon style. Also from the DM's perspective do you allow it to continue or do you attempt to find alternatives or change the rules? Now my players know the best monster to summon for each spell does every spellcaster always summon that monster? [/QUOTE]

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