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<blockquote data-quote="Jack99" data-source="post: 4669072" data-attributes="member: 53135">I am not sure this is a pattern.This is because the minions you are looking at are higher level than the regular. This is not a minion feature.Let's look at the level 8 soldiers from MMHobgoblin Warrior&nbsp; Level 8 MinionMedium natural humanoid&nbsp;&nbsp; XP 88Initiative +8&nbsp; Senses Perception +6; low-light visionHP 1: a missed attack never damages a minion.AC 22 (24 with phalanx soldier); Fortitude 20, Reﬂex 18, Will 18Hobgoblin Hand of Bane&nbsp; Level 8 Elite SoldierMedium natural humanoid&nbsp; XP 700Initiative +9&nbsp; Senses Perception +8; low-light visionHP 184; Bloodied 92; see also Bane’s blessingAC 26; Fortitude 24, Reﬂex 22, Will 23(Note that the hobgoblin above is elite, so withdraw 2 from 3 defenses before comparing)Shadar-Kai Warrior&nbsp; Level 8 SoldierMedium shadow humanoid&nbsp;&nbsp; XP 350Initiative +11&nbsp; Senses Perception +6; low-light visionHP 86; Bloodied 43AC 24; Fortitude 19, Reﬂex 20, Will 17Speed 5; see also shadow jauntAngel of Valor&nbsp; Level 8 SoldierMedium immortal humanoid (angel)&nbsp; XP 350Initiative +10&nbsp; Senses Perception +6Angelic Presence Attacks against the angel of valor take a –2 penalty until the angel is bloodied.HP 88; Bloodied 44AC 24; Fortitude 22, Reﬂex 20, Will 19Rot Scarab Swarm&nbsp; Level 8 SoldierMedium shadow beast (swarm)&nbsp; XP 350Initiative +9&nbsp; Senses Perception +7; darkvisionHP 88; Bloodied 44AC 22; Fortitude 21, Reﬂex 21, Will 19As you will notice, both the defenses and AC seem to fall within the normal range of level. Minions do tend to have slightly lower stats the equal level monsters, but the difference is not huge.So, basically, what I am saying is that you can take any humanoid that you want, change the hit points to 1, shave 3/4 of the XP, remove all but one or two attacks, and set the damage to almost a minimum and you have yourself a brand new minion. You might want to consider shaving 1 or 2 off the defenses, but basically, you are already there.Hope it helped.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jack99, post: 4669072, member: 53135"] I am not sure this is a pattern. This is because the minions you are looking at are higher level than the regular. This is not a minion feature. Let's look at the level 8 soldiers from MM [B]Hobgoblin Warrior Level 8 Minion[/B] Medium natural humanoid XP 88 Initiative +8 Senses Perception +6; low-light vision HP 1: a missed attack never damages a minion. AC 22 (24 with phalanx soldier); Fortitude 20, Reﬂex 18, Will 18 [B]Hobgoblin Hand of Bane Level 8 Elite Soldier[/B] Medium natural humanoid XP 700 Initiative +9 Senses Perception +8; low-light vision HP 184; Bloodied 92; see also Bane’s blessing AC 26; Fortitude 24, Reﬂex 22, Will 23 (Note that the hobgoblin above is elite, so withdraw 2 from 3 defenses before comparing) [B]Shadar-Kai Warrior Level 8 Soldier[/B] Medium shadow humanoid XP 350 Initiative +11 Senses Perception +6; low-light vision HP 86; Bloodied 43 AC 24; Fortitude 19, Reﬂex 20, Will 17 Speed 5; see also shadow jaunt [B]Angel of Valor Level 8 Soldier[/B] Medium immortal humanoid (angel) XP 350 Initiative +10 Senses Perception +6 Angelic Presence Attacks against the angel of valor take a –2 penalty until the angel is bloodied. HP 88; Bloodied 44 AC 24; Fortitude 22, Reﬂex 20, Will 19 [B]Rot Scarab Swarm Level 8 Soldier[/B] Medium shadow beast (swarm) XP 350 Initiative +9 Senses Perception +7; darkvision HP 88; Bloodied 44 AC 22; Fortitude 21, Reﬂex 21, Will 19 As you will notice, both the defenses and AC seem to fall within the normal range of level. Minions do tend to have slightly lower stats the equal level monsters, but the difference is not huge. So, basically, what I am saying is that you can take any humanoid that you want, change the hit points to 1, shave 3/4 of the XP, remove all but one or two attacks, and set the damage to almost a minimum and you have yourself a brand new minion. You might want to consider shaving 1 or 2 off the defenses, but basically, you are already there. Hope it helped. [/QUOTE]

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