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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 4218379" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>No. </p><p></p><p>Lots of folks have apparantly so internalized the rejection of DnD mechanics so deeply that they are willing to make absolutely ludicrous claims about how the world works so as to justfiy thier own dislike of past D&D mechanics.</p><p></p><p>As many others have said, D&D never precisely simulates the real world, but at low levels D&D has always had a sort of casual realism.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Eventually. Sure. And D&D doesn't model bleeding or shock. But a one inch gash in your body is unlikely to send an energized combat heightened individual into immediate shock. It's quite possible in the middle of combat to get shot and not even realize it until after things have settled down. There are any number of cases of humans taking extraordinary wounds and still being able to act. Does this mean that hit points are in any way realistic simulations of how the body takes damage? No, but at low levels of play they have a casual versimilitude, especially outside of some corner cases.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sometimes. But the fact is that simulationists have been fiddling with falling rules since the early days of the game because for various reasons I won't go into here again they fail the casual realism test.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The number of things which are entirely open to DM interpretation in the new edition keeps increasing. As a DM, that sounds burdensome to me rather than liberating.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You might want to check out the statistics on how many people die after falling in the shower. Likewise, you speak like someone who has never actually been punched in the face by a fist very hard. Likewise, what's the most bee stings you've ever had at one time?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>BUHAHAHAHAHAHA.</p><p></p><p>I'm sorry, but that's just ridiculous. Again, "Lots of folks have apparantly so internalized the rejection of DnD mechanics so deeply that they are willing to make absolutely ludicrous claims about how the world works so as to justfiy thier own dislike of past D&D mechanics." Are you really suggesting that the minion rules are 'realistic'. Because in that case, not only the above, but apparantly <em>you've</em> so internalized the 4E D&D mechanics that you are mistaking them for how the world really works.</p><p></p><p>So, are we through with that lazy 'attack the other posters mental state as defective' nonsense? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And yet there are hundreds recorded incidents of taking multiple swords or bullets through the chest and not only living, but actually taking conscious actions after doing so.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 4218379, member: 4937"] No. Lots of folks have apparantly so internalized the rejection of DnD mechanics so deeply that they are willing to make absolutely ludicrous claims about how the world works so as to justfiy thier own dislike of past D&D mechanics. As many others have said, D&D never precisely simulates the real world, but at low levels D&D has always had a sort of casual realism. Eventually. Sure. And D&D doesn't model bleeding or shock. But a one inch gash in your body is unlikely to send an energized combat heightened individual into immediate shock. It's quite possible in the middle of combat to get shot and not even realize it until after things have settled down. There are any number of cases of humans taking extraordinary wounds and still being able to act. Does this mean that hit points are in any way realistic simulations of how the body takes damage? No, but at low levels of play they have a casual versimilitude, especially outside of some corner cases. Sometimes. But the fact is that simulationists have been fiddling with falling rules since the early days of the game because for various reasons I won't go into here again they fail the casual realism test. The number of things which are entirely open to DM interpretation in the new edition keeps increasing. As a DM, that sounds burdensome to me rather than liberating. You might want to check out the statistics on how many people die after falling in the shower. Likewise, you speak like someone who has never actually been punched in the face by a fist very hard. Likewise, what's the most bee stings you've ever had at one time? BUHAHAHAHAHAHA. I'm sorry, but that's just ridiculous. Again, "Lots of folks have apparantly so internalized the rejection of DnD mechanics so deeply that they are willing to make absolutely ludicrous claims about how the world works so as to justfiy thier own dislike of past D&D mechanics." Are you really suggesting that the minion rules are 'realistic'. Because in that case, not only the above, but apparantly [i]you've[/i] so internalized the 4E D&D mechanics that you are mistaking them for how the world really works. So, are we through with that lazy 'attack the other posters mental state as defective' nonsense? And yet there are hundreds recorded incidents of taking multiple swords or bullets through the chest and not only living, but actually taking conscious actions after doing so. [/QUOTE]
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