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<blockquote data-quote="LostSoul" data-source="post: 4218761" data-attributes="member: 386">That's because he was obviously a minion! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />That sounds like a really good description of simulationism.&nbsp; I was talking to fusangite (who doesn't post much here any more), the biggest &quot;simulationist&quot; I know, and he said something like this: 'I know the gameworld is made up of cardboard props.&nbsp; I just want to see how much I can kick them before they fall down.'I played in a game of his for a few sessions.&nbsp; I had no idea what was going on at the table, between players.&nbsp; It was like a different hobby, only slightly related to what I was used to.I guess my point is that 4e doesn't look like a good fit for you.&nbsp; Either you can change your goals for play to get what 4e (hopefully) will deliver, or stick with 3.x, Pathfinder or some other game that's a better fit.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="LostSoul, post: 4218761, member: 386"] That's because he was obviously a minion! ;) That sounds like a really good description of simulationism. I was talking to fusangite (who doesn't post much here any more), the biggest "simulationist" I know, and he said something like this: 'I know the gameworld is made up of cardboard props. I just want to see how much I can kick them before they fall down.' I played in a game of his for a few sessions. I had no idea what was going on at the table, between players. It was like a different hobby, only slightly related to what I was used to. I guess my point is that 4e doesn't look like a good fit for you. Either you can change your goals for play to get what 4e (hopefully) will deliver, or stick with 3.x, Pathfinder or some other game that's a better fit. [/QUOTE]

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