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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rex Blunder" data-source="post: 4227555" data-attributes="member: 60850">I gotta say, Lizard, I like your reductio-ad-absurdum wooly mammoth scenario. I think it sounds Kickin'. Throw a couple of velociraptors on motorcycles and you've got something.If the heroes are sufficiently high-level that they could conceivably take a wooly mammoth one-on-one without too much trouble, then I don't have a problem with there being mammoth minions. I'm guessing this is at least Paragon tier.At first I thought, "It seems like an abuse to have minions who are fighting other minions. After all, minions are supposed to be creatures who can be plowed through BY THE PCs. 'Minion' is a relative term."Then I thought, "Yeah, but I honestly don't want to be tracking the hit points of a bunch of wooly mammoths and cavemen who aren't even interacting with the PCs. I don't want to sit there rolling tons and tons of dice while the PCs wait to attack or be attacked. So, if the mammoths' and cavemen's AC and attack bonuses are such that a mammoth will kill an appropriate-ish number of cavemen, then, SURE. Minions fighing minions might be a good timesaver."Minion rules might actually allow this big battle to work without a lot of dead time for the players.Do you think the caveman princess is a warlord?</blockquote>