Mithral weapon creation question

[Kershek]

When creating a weapon made of mithral, the rules state you pay 500 gold per pound of material. It also states that a mithral item weighs half as much as a normal item.

A short sword is 2 lbs and 15 gold. Would a mithral short sword cost 515 gold or 1015 gold? Do you count the 2 lbs of normal metal towards the mithral cost, or do you use the mithral weight? Can you cite a rule that states this?

 

[Wolf72]

no citations here!

but, the examples in the 3.0 DMG based the price on the pre-new material weight. (for darkwood at least, and I think for mithral).

so I can say, I am fairly (99 ... no 80 ... no 20, wait 15%!! ... )sure that you use the original (PHb) weight for pricing.

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

I may be thinking too realistically, but why would you use the normal weight?

If its a mithral longsword, it would be made with mithral as any other sword would be made with steel. So, it would weigh less to begin with. Of course, this could easily be too much common sense for D&D to handle.

 

[Trainz]

All that said, why make a weapon of mythral ?

The only benefit is the reduced weight... no monsters have a X/mythral DR, and a mythral weapon doesn't improve your fighting...

. ... just curious...

 

[Kershek]

Reduced weight and tougher to sunder.

If you use 1 lb weight, then a mithral short sword will only cost 515 gold, only 200 gold more than a regular MW one. That seems too cheap. And yet, if you use 2 lbs, it's 1015, which is just under the price of a mithral chain shirt that weighs 7 1/2 lbs. Doesn't make sense either way.

 

[Trainz]

Reduced weight and tougher to sunder

As I said, reduced weight is not worth it. Tougher to Sunder ?

+1, Adamantine, Cold Iron, Silver, Aligned, Mythral, Masterwork.

All these but one help fight some (all) critters. A few are tougher to sunder.

If you could pick 6 out of the 7 listed materials, which one would you leave out ?

That's right, Mythral.

Given the choice, no combattant would bother carrying a mythral weapon. Even if it's tougher to sunder, which is a very rare method of attack.

Which is why you have mythral armors in the treasure tables of the DMG, but no mythral weapons.

Q.E.D.

 

[Kershek]

Truthfully, it's a character roleplaying decision over a superior rules choice. The fact that they go ahead and say you can create weapons with the metal and then not explicitly spell it out is troublesome.

 

[kreynolds]

All that said, why make a weapon of mythral ?

What's "mythral"?

 

[Trainz]

What's "mythral"?

It's the same as "mithral" but even better.

Cute kreynolds. You try participating in a message board that's not in your native tongue without making a single mistake. Go ahead.

If you're going to point out my spelling mistakes, at least make it entertaining.

[Cyrano de Bergerac]

You could say:"Hey Trainz, spell "Mythral" the right way (Mithral) and you might find it fits better for weapons" or "Trainz here as invented a new metal here for the followers of Mystra: Mythral"

[/Cyrano de Bergerac]

Come on man. You stroke me as more eloquent than that in the past.

 

[kreynolds]

You stroke me...

I can _promise_ you that I don't.