Aust Diamondew
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It would function as leather armor with a +3 AC bonus instead of +2.
Mithril Studded Leather?
- Thread starter Bront
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Bront said:
Well, if this is the question, then I would answer it with:
Why not allow 80 point buy for the PCs?
If you are the DM, you can do anything you want with the rules as long as it is fun for your game and players (and even if it is not fun, you still can do anything with the rules that you want).
Personally, I would not allow it because I do not think the metal studs give the primary AC like the metal in metal armors. From the AC and weight differential, and from the illustration in the book, the studs on Studded Leather are relatively infrequent and a small part of the armor.
Stormrunner
Explorer
The penalties to spellcasting and skills are an attempt to reflect how hard it is to move around in the armor. This is partially due to the weight but also to the stiffness, especially in the case of leather armor. Mithral-studded leather might be slightly lighter by a pound or so, but the underlying leather will still be stiff and restrictive, so no reduction in penalties. (Remember, this isn't soft leather like a leather jacket. It's thick, and portions may have been hardened by boiling in oil and/or wax - more like a leather shoe.)
was
Adventurer
-I would allow it, but there'd be a catch. I honestly don't think that there is enough metal in normal studded leather that changing the studs to mithril would make that much of a difference in its stats. I'd probably set up an adventure where the pcs end up hunting down a rare creature to be used to make a suit of studded leather with the desired stats.
Barendd Nobeard
Explorer
Question said:
In my view, attaching metal to metal is easier than attaching metal to organic material. YMMV.
Sigurd
First Post
Are people getting hung up on the name?
I think the question is a fair one but it is bound too much by the label.
Would you allow the mithral material bonus for studded leather. The actual leather in the world could be something worthy of the gold increase for the material and difficulty in acquisition - it need not be simply mithral studs vs metal ones.
Ideas:
Perhaps it has mithral studs and woven spider silk instead of leather.
Perhaps the leather is treated in special moonlight ceremonies that give it special properties.
Perhaps the studs aren't actually mithral at all but some other substance that shares the mithral material bonus.
Perhaps the studs are fused volcanic shards on a sharkskin base topped with chalots and overshies, garnished with truffle pate, brandy, a fried egg on top and spam.
Sigurd
I think the question is a fair one but it is bound too much by the label.
Would you allow the mithral material bonus for studded leather. The actual leather in the world could be something worthy of the gold increase for the material and difficulty in acquisition - it need not be simply mithral studs vs metal ones.
Ideas:
Perhaps it has mithral studs and woven spider silk instead of leather.
Perhaps the leather is treated in special moonlight ceremonies that give it special properties.
Perhaps the studs aren't actually mithral at all but some other substance that shares the mithral material bonus.
Perhaps the studs are fused volcanic shards on a sharkskin base topped with chalots and overshies, garnished with truffle pate, brandy, a fried egg on top and spam.
Sigurd
Sigurd said:I think the question is a fair one but it is bound too much by the label.
Would you allow the mithral material bonus for studded leather. The actual leather in the world could be something worthy of the gold increase for the material and difficulty in acquisition - it need not be simply mithral studs vs metal ones.
Ideas:
Perhaps it has mithral studs and woven spider silk instead of leather.
Perhaps the leather is treated in special moonlight ceremonies that give it special properties.
Perhaps the studs aren't actually mithral at all but some other substance that shares the mithral material bonus.
Perhaps the studs are fused volcanic shards on a sharkskin base topped with chalots and overshies, garnished with truffle pate, brandy, a fried egg on top and spam.
Sigurd
In that case, I’d allow it.
Bront
The man with the probe
Well, as I said before, I don't see it getting full mithril benifits, but functioning as leather with a +3 AC bonus instead of a +2 for a cost of 500 doesn't seem unreasonable (Since Mithril Chain Shirt allows a Chain Shirt to function as leather with a +4 AC bonus instead of +2 for 1000).
The studs you see are only part of the metal, they are the external showing of the metal brackets holding the leather togeather, so there is more metal underneith.
Technicaly, you can't make mithril headed arrows, have mithril clasps on a backpack, or other such uses of the metal that might happen, even if it wasn't mechanicaly better.
The studs you see are only part of the metal, they are the external showing of the metal brackets holding the leather togeather, so there is more metal underneith.
Not the same thing. We're talking about an item that someone would think to make, even if it gave no benifit. (Think of someone spending twice as much as normal for a set of plate mail simply for the styling that made it look special). However, by the rules, you can't make it at all.Karins Dad said:
Technicaly, you can't make mithril headed arrows, have mithril clasps on a backpack, or other such uses of the metal that might happen, even if it wasn't mechanicaly better.
Shin Okada
Explorer
Well, It is obvious that someone can use mithral to craft metal parts of something not mostly made of metal.
It is just that the resulted item is not considered to be "made of mithral" and thus have no specific benefit at all.
It is just that the resulted item is not considered to be "made of mithral" and thus have no specific benefit at all.
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