Mixing Races....and why DM's shouldn't allow it

[S'mon]

Why the discrimination against everything not demon? Do you allow tieflings? Aasimar? (Where do they come from?)

Never had any IMC, no. Can't say I ever officially banned them.

 

[Gez]

I've ended ruling out half-elves and half-orcs.

Now, celestial, fiends, dragons, fey, and sphinxes, the biggest magical players; yeah, they can have mixed offsprings. But it's seldom actual offsprings. A half-dragon may be the child of a couple of mortals who have been blessed by a powerful dragon, rather than the child of a mortal and a polymorphed dragon.

Hags use a similar method. They haunt the dreams of people and corrupt these people's essence in this way. Then their victim will sire hags. There's no actual sexual intercourse with other beings, most of the time; it's more magical than that.

 

[Banshee16]

Hags use a similar method. They haunt the dreams of people and corrupt these people's essence in this way. Then their victim will sire hags. There's no actual sexual intercourse with other beings, most of the time; it's more magical than that.

That's kind of a neat idea. The idea of possession or magical influence being used to create half-breeds. I recently read a book called "Lord of Snow and Ash" where the main character is some kind of human/fiendish half-dragon....mixed with a weird "living vampire" template or something. Would be interesting to stat up.

His form would become more dragonlike as time went on, unless he imbibed human blood. I'd generally figure he could Alter Self to appear normal if he drank human blood, then, once he used his powers, the half-dragon features would start returning until he drank again.

But it all resulted from his having been possessed by a spirit that had all those characteristics.

Banshee

 

[mhacdebhandia]

"I didn't want to find out that instead of getting my powers from a transcendant scientist-mentor, I was grown from the DNA of Aryan super-atheletes and Hitler's personal sex midgets!

I didn't even know Hitler had personal sex midgets!"


(A geek point if you know where this quote comes from...)

Planetary, #7: "To Be In England, In The Summertime."

 

[William drake]

That's kind of a neat idea. The idea of possession or magical influence being used to create half-breeds. I recently read a book called "Lord of Snow and Ash" where the main character is some kind of human/fiendish half-dragon....mixed with a weird "living vampire" template or something. Would be interesting to stat up.

His form would become more dragonlike as time went on, unless he imbibed human blood. I'd generally figure he could Alter Self to appear normal if he drank human blood, then, once he used his powers, the half-dragon features would start returning until he drank again.

But it all resulted from his having been possessed by a spirit that had all those characteristics.

Banshee

Ok yeah, that right there is my prob: human/fiendish half-dragon...mixed with a vampire. This is the stuff i was talking about, now half-elves, half-orcs and the standard like. When I think of halfbreeds, I think more of the biological ability to mate. yes, divine beings can, and in legends, have been animals and mated with mortals, but I think that stuffs stupid. And yes, a dragon could polymorph into aperson and mate with them, but personally, I wonder "why would it care, or want to? Why would it even thing people were attacted, or anything of the like" I know its fantasy, and you can do what ever, you can always say well ITS MAGIC..but I think thats just easy, and a bit munchie.

And about the whole centaur, I never put them into my groups, or anything like that. Only lycanthropes, and thats rare, but I use it as a desease. And when orc's mate with people, its rape, so most women of the middle ages, if they bore such a crature, I assumed would kill it, or perhaps the male of the house would kill them both.

Now this all stems to the poing: are the other races closest to Humans, the same, or are they really different races. If they are tottally diferent races, then they cant mate, but if they are similar, but only different offshoots from one another down the evolutionary trail, then I'd say it be ok, and only in the particular races that would find one another attractive. And to me, thatd be Elves and humans, and orcs, but only by the way I've stated. Yes, a woman could mate with a Dwarf...but what twisting background would you have to make so that these two got together, and would it be excepted...would the parents think or care about how their child would be intergrated into their people.

My thing is, I dont think DM's or Players think to deeply into this, they just want to throw things together and see what new things they could do.

Some one said "just cause you could do it, doesn't mean it should be done." I agree, and was just wondering how far you, the DM's would allow your players to go, and if your a player, how far your DM's let you go.

 

[Thurbane]

I actually have a bit of a "genetic family tree" for the humanoids in my campaign. Most mamalian humanoids and giants have a common ancestor from which they all evolved. So humans, elves, dwarves, gnomes, halflings, orcs, goblins, hobgoblins, bugbears, ogres and giants all originate from the same common creature...

There is a seperate but parralel family tree for reptilian beings, such as kobolds, lizard men, troglodytes and yuan-ti...

These "family trees" are mostly just for campaign flavour, though.

 

[Thotas]

Centaurs weren't half-breeds in Greek mythology, they were a race with a separate origin. And the most famous centaur, Chiron, had a unique origin of his own.

 

[Aaron L]

In a world where owlbears, chimera, and hippogriffs exist, any crossbreed race is viable.

 

[Jürgen Hubert]

Planetary, #7: "To Be In England, In The Summertime."

And we have a winner!

In a world where owlbears, chimera, and hippogriffs exist, any crossbreed race is viable.

Indeed. All it takes is a wizard with the right mixture of boredom and curiosity.

Or you could go the Exalted route: Every creature can interbreed with any other, though for some of the more extreme varieties you need a certain amount of Wyld (=chaos) energies. But human-god, human-elemental, human-demon and human-ghost crossbreeds are all possible without them.

And with enough Wyld influences, anything goes. One of the supplement describes a creature called a "stone lion" - the result of "a mating between a lion and a stone". Don't think too hard about it, or the Wyld will consume your mind!

 

[Kae'Yoss]

human-ghost

I guess there is ghost touch equipment involved, yes?

And with enough Wyld influences, anything goes. One of the supplement describes a creature called a "stone lion" - the result of "a mating between a lion and a stone".

So the Treants are really the result of some tree-shagging hippies blessing their shillelagh too rigorously?

Though I'll draw the line at animals and inanimate objects. Really, even with magic, there's no explaining some things.