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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Bran Blackbyrd" data-source="post: 242676" data-attributes="member: 1710">Warning: Not a shred of my post is being written in anger. Ok?Heh. I know you weren't saying that. Here's what happened; I said Spycraft did not come up with certain mechanics first, that they had been in other games before. You responded that we didn't need those things repeated, which was when I responded to you that that had nothing to do with the point I was making, and explained what exactly the point was. It didn't work apparently, because you seem to think that I'm saying you tried to make the point that "someone else" was trying to make. I'll get back to this at the end of this unnecessarily long post.*pant pant pant* Okay?Lol! We never think that people could read into our posts the things they do, but they do anyway, darn them! For what it's worth I've said before and I'll say again that the Department 7 stuff is redundant fluff, and I could do without it. If it gets in the way of content I can use, I will be dissapointed. If it just stays in the sidebars and doesn't get in the way, I'll just ignore it.I know your post wasn't referring to me. I simply chose to address what you said anyway, and make clear my views on Spycraft (which, I think, are pretty forgiving).The thing is, you go from sounding like D20 Modern shouldn't be made at all, to sounding like you want to buy it, and therefore don't want it to overlap with Spycraft at all. Well, you can't avoid the overlap, it's going to happen. I don't want spy stuff, I just want a modern rules set with lots of modern tech, If there's some overlap I'll just suck it up and deal with it, because I don't have a job at Wizards. Thank goodness for that, by the way,  because they have to try to make as many people as they can happy with each book they make. That sucks!Cheap shot or metaphor, it makes no difference. Even assuming that you didn't mean to offend with your comment, there are people out there who will only get one thing from what you said. That anyone who like sticking with the main brand is a sheep. I'm not saying that's what you said, I'm saying that there are people out there who will feel that that is what you meant. And I think we've seen how easy it is to misunderstand what's written on a message board. Right? Okay.Lastly, and Yuan-Ti, this has nothing to do with you. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />A recap.That proves that Spycraft is a leader in the modern genre in the same way that the fact that there are wheels on a 2002 Ford Mustang proves the effectiveness of the 1969 Dodge Charger as a leader in the "sports car" genre. That is to say, it proves nothing, since before the Charger there were also wheels on Model Ts, ox carts, stage coaches an so on...Action Point-like devices have been around before, covert world-spanning organizations have been in rpgs for ages, etc.That's all I had to say. If anybody else misunderstands me, I'm going to ignore it. Life's too short to have to repeat yourself so many times. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool    :cool:"  data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /></blockquote>

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