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<blockquote data-quote="Gradine" data-source="post: 8755390" data-attributes="member: 57112">This is something that's been bothering me for a bit, and I know that it's probably a deliberate choice but I still want to get it off my chest.It's really crappy when threads get shut down because of trolls crapping on the thread.It happens, routinely, every time there is an attempt at a serious conversation around issues of oppression and misrepresentation in RPGs. And the end result always feels like this:Trolls: &quot;This is nothing, this conversation shouldn't be happening!&quot; x30Mods: &quot;Stop trying to get this conversation shut down! We're shutting this conversation down!&quot;And on the one hand? I get it, I totally get it. The mod team is only three people (two of whom are, to my knowledge, volunteers), and you want to keep this forum civil, and nothing ruins civility on this or any space on the internet like a conversation about racist/sexism/homophobia/transphobia/etc. But also like... it's handing the anti-inclusivity trolls exactly what they want? And completely chills any attempt at a serious discussion about how to help our community and the biggest and loudest voices within it to do better by all of the members within it. Speaking for myself, I'd like to talk about how we, as a consumer community, can create actual change with regards to, say, WotC's absolutely horrific track record of casual (if unintentional) racism towards black people. But I feel like I can't, at least not here, where I feel like I'm most likely to find the most like-minded and well-intentioned folks to work towards that changed. I feel silenced.And not by the trolls./2c</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Gradine, post: 8755390, member: 57112"] This is something that's been bothering me for a bit, and I know that it's probably a deliberate choice but I still want to get it off my chest. It's really crappy when threads get shut down because of trolls crapping on the thread. It happens, routinely, every time there is an attempt at a serious conversation around issues of oppression and misrepresentation in RPGs. And the end result always feels like this: Trolls: "This is nothing, this conversation shouldn't be happening!" x30 Mods: "Stop trying to get this conversation shut down! We're shutting this conversation down!" And on the one hand? I get it, I totally get it. The mod team is only three people (two of whom are, to my knowledge, volunteers), and you want to keep this forum civil, and nothing ruins civility on this or any space on the internet like a conversation about racist/sexism/homophobia/transphobia/etc. But also like... it's handing the anti-inclusivity trolls exactly what they want? And completely chills any attempt at a serious discussion about how to help our community and the biggest and loudest voices within it to do better by [I]all [/I]of the members within it. Speaking for myself, I'd like to talk about how we, as a consumer community, can create actual change with regards to, say, WotC's absolutely horrific track record of casual (if unintentional) racism towards black people. But I feel like I can't, at least not here, where I feel like I'm most likely to find the most like-minded and well-intentioned folks to work towards that changed. I feel silenced. And not by the trolls. /2c [/QUOTE]

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