Monks with Reach Weapons

[Bront]

Just to make sure I'm doing this corect, since a Monk can use any part of his body as a weapon, he is always threatening within his normal reach with his unarmed in addition to with his weapon.

So, a monk with a reach weapon is threatening squares immidately next to him as well as the squares 10' away (in the case of a medium or small monk with reach).

This came up because one of the characters in my Eberron campaign took the Serpent Strike feat and can now flurry with a longspear.

 

[glass]

I believe you are correct.


glass.

 

[Vurt]

The monk does indeed threaten everything within 10 feet of himself.

However, if he attacks a target at 10 feet with his spear and another at 5 with an unarmed strike as part of his flurry, or AoO, or whatever, he is arguably fighting with two-weapons and should incur penalties for such.

Cheers,
Vurt

 

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

However, if he attacks a target at 10 feet with his spear and another at 5 with an unarmed strike as part of his flurry, or AoO, or whatever, he is arguably fighting with two-weapons and should incur penalties for such.

Depending, of course, on how you read the rules on TWF.

In any case, he is absolutely not subject to TWF rules if he mixes the spear with unarmed strikes as part of a Flurry of Blows - check the section on monk weapons in the monk class for more information.

 

[Bront]

Depending, of course, on how you read the rules on TWF.

In any case, he is absolutely not subject to TWF rules if he mixes the spear with unarmed strikes as part of a Flurry of Blows - check the section on monk weapons in the monk class for more information.

I knew that on flurry. I don't believe he is the other way either, since each attack is a seperate incident when it's AoO, and you don't get offhand penalties for any of your limbs.

 

[Hypersmurf]

I knew that on flurry. I don't believe he is the other way either, since each attack is a seperate incident when it's AoO, and you don't get offhand penalties for any of your limbs.

No, you don't get off-hand penalties for natural weapons.

An unarmed strike isn't.

A fighter with ITWF and +6 BAB can slash twice with his longsword (primary weapon) at BAB +6/+1 and punch twice with his fist at BAB +6 and a -5 penalty on the second attack (off-hand weapon), with a -2 penalty on all attacks for attacking with two weapons where the off-hand weapon is light.

A lizardman with a +6 BAB can slash twice with his longsword (primary weapon) at BAB +6/+1, and claw once at BAB +6 (secondary natural attack), with a -5 penalty on the claw for using a secondary natural attack.

The two situations are completely different; one uses the two-weapon fighting rules, and the other uses the natural weapon rules.

-Hyp.

 

[Bront]

No, you don't get off-hand penalties for natural weapons.

An unarmed strike isn't.

A fighter with ITWF and +6 BAB can slash twice with his longsword (primary weapon) at BAB +6/+1 and punch twice with his fist at BAB +6 and a -5 penalty on the second attack (off-hand weapon), with a -2 penalty on all attacks for attacking with two weapons where the off-hand weapon is light.

A lizardman with a +6 BAB can slash twice with his longsword (primary weapon) at BAB +6/+1, and claw once at BAB +6 (secondary natural attack), with a -5 penalty on the claw for using a secondary natural attack.

The two situations are completely different; one uses the two-weapon fighting rules, and the other uses the natural weapon rules.

-Hyp.

We're duscussing the Monk however, who's unarmed attacks are considered both natural and manufactured weapons.

Unarmed Strike: At 1st level, a monk gains Improved Unarmed Strike as a bonus feat. A monk’s attacks may be with either fist interchangeably or even from elbows, knees, and feet. This means that a monk may even make unarmed strikes with her hands full. There is no such thing as an off-hand attack for a monk striking unarmed. A monk may thus apply her full Strength bonus on damage rolls for all her unarmed strikes.
Usually a monk’s unarmed strikes deal lethal damage, but she can choose to deal nonlethal damage instead with no penalty on her attack roll. She has the same choice to deal lethal or nonlethal damage while grappling.
A monk’s unarmed strike is treated both as a manufactured weapon and a natural weapon for the purpose of spells and effects that enhance or improve either manufactured weapons or natural weapons.

 

[IcyCool]

We're duscussing the Monk however, who's unarmed attacks are considered both natural and manufactured weapons.

No they aren't.

A monk’s unarmed strike is treated both as a manufactured weapon and a natural weapon for the purpose of spells and effects that enhance or improve either manufactured weapons or natural weapons.

 

[Bront]

No they aren't.

Ahh, missed that, but it earlier specifies you can attack unarmed with your hands full, so not an issue.

 

[Hypersmurf]

Ahh, missed that, but it earlier specifies you can attack unarmed with your hands full, so not an issue.

I can attack with the sword in my left hand even with my right hand full... but if my right hand is full because it's being used to attack with another sword, I take TWF penalties.

The monk can attack unarmed even when his hands are full. But if they're full because he's using them to attack with a glaive, he takes TWF penalties.

-Hyp.