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<blockquote data-quote="ObsidianCrane" data-source="post: 4175019" data-attributes="member: 54918"><p>Hmm some very narrow approaches here.</p><p></p><p>Try expanding the scenario.</p><p></p><p>The PCs come to suspect that someone is manipulating the king, their suspect comes down to 4 individuals, 2 women, and 2 men. 1 of the women is the Queen, 1 of the men is the Prince. The other woman is a powerful noblewoman, a member of the king's personal council and some whisper his lover. The other man is also a powerful nobleman, perhaps well known for indecent dealings. Its a kingdom where nobles regularly great each other by kissing either cheeks or hands. Now if the PCs kill one of these people they all get executed for treason or at least murder, so the game becomes about finding who the succubus is and how to expose it.</p><p></p><p>Options available - kill the suspects, investigate the suspects, ignore the potential repercusions, or search for a way to find and expose the succubus.</p><p></p><p>The last option is where the Mirror of Pelor idea fits in.</p><p></p><p>Now all you need to do is put something into the situation to make things worse - such as a pending war with a neighbouring kingdom.</p><p></p><p>Consider the Three Musketeers, make Cardinal Richelieu the Succubus, or use the alternate telling of the story in <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0246544/" target="_blank">The Musketeer</a> where Fabre "The Man in Black" would be the succubus.</p><p></p><p>Did any of this require 4E, not really, does the 4E rule set support this sort of story telling well? It does IMO, and better than 3E did where the first options would be to hit the spell books for a solution, forcing contrived means to prevent that from happening.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ObsidianCrane, post: 4175019, member: 54918"] Hmm some very narrow approaches here. Try expanding the scenario. The PCs come to suspect that someone is manipulating the king, their suspect comes down to 4 individuals, 2 women, and 2 men. 1 of the women is the Queen, 1 of the men is the Prince. The other woman is a powerful noblewoman, a member of the king's personal council and some whisper his lover. The other man is also a powerful nobleman, perhaps well known for indecent dealings. Its a kingdom where nobles regularly great each other by kissing either cheeks or hands. Now if the PCs kill one of these people they all get executed for treason or at least murder, so the game becomes about finding who the succubus is and how to expose it. Options available - kill the suspects, investigate the suspects, ignore the potential repercusions, or search for a way to find and expose the succubus. The last option is where the Mirror of Pelor idea fits in. Now all you need to do is put something into the situation to make things worse - such as a pending war with a neighbouring kingdom. Consider the Three Musketeers, make Cardinal Richelieu the Succubus, or use the alternate telling of the story in [URL=http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0246544/]The Musketeer[/URL] where Fabre "The Man in Black" would be the succubus. Did any of this require 4E, not really, does the 4E rule set support this sort of story telling well? It does IMO, and better than 3E did where the first options would be to hit the spell books for a solution, forcing contrived means to prevent that from happening. [/QUOTE]
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