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<blockquote data-quote="bramadan" data-source="post: 4175514" data-attributes="member: 1064"><p>I have never understood the obsession the DnD players (and until recently designers) had with covering every possible human affair with rather heavy handed game mechanics. </p><p>In our own world plenty of powerful men were thoroughly controlled by seductive women who did not have any "mechanical" - meaning pseudo-magical - way to affect that control.</p><p></p><p>Even if mechanically stat-block represents all the "extraordinary" things succubus can do she is still - by her very nature as succubus - seductress extraordinaire. </p><p></p><p>King has saved her from her abusive uncle single-handedly, forgetting for a moment he is a king and brawling like a school-boy when he saw the old man whipping the pretty lass. </p><p>She has this amazing combination of innocence and desire, amazing body that she seems vaguely self-conscious about. For an experienced man such as king it is impossible not to notice the physical reaction his very presence has on her, covered with just a touch of embarrassment. King, noble man that he is, would have never dreamed of imposing himself on her but it was obvious how young lass was whittling away without his presence and how every little touch, smile and compliment from him would make her beam. He has installed her therefore as the Queen's lady in waiting making it easy for him to spend time with her - completely innocently of course.</p><p></p><p>Furthermore, she is always willing to listen to his plans and ideas, particularly to the ones that the council (timid old man that they are) always advises against. Young lass *understands* him - she even inspires him to come up with ever greater plans, making him not only a better man but a better ruler as well. </p><p></p><p>In the issues of sex, she is obviously dying to offer herself to the king but only her modesty and respect for the Queen are holding her back. Queen is old and frigid though and King understands that it is his duty to initiate young lady into the joys of bedroom. Maybe not this month, but very soon time will come when she will melt under his touch and he will get to explore that amazing body so far semi-hidden under beautiful, tasteful garments she is always wearing. In his boring everyday life it is this sort of thinking that keeps the King awake at night and gives him something to look forward to.</p><p></p><p>Now some band of stinky mercenaries claims that this apple of his eye is a Demon. Into the dungeon with them !</p><p></p><p>Not how above is accomplished without a single magical effect and yet would be *hellishly* hard spell to break. As long as she is playing her cards right kings little lover-to-be can hold the moral high ground while influencing the king and remaining effectively untouchable by anyone. </p><p></p><p>I can write any number of different scenarios whereby a "perfect" woman would have king entirely under her control without him ever realizing it, yet more where he would realize that she is in control and relish it, and additional dollop where he sees her in control but feels powerless to stop it and afraid/embarased to ask for help. All of that with her having absolutely no means of magical mind control.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bramadan, post: 4175514, member: 1064"] I have never understood the obsession the DnD players (and until recently designers) had with covering every possible human affair with rather heavy handed game mechanics. In our own world plenty of powerful men were thoroughly controlled by seductive women who did not have any "mechanical" - meaning pseudo-magical - way to affect that control. Even if mechanically stat-block represents all the "extraordinary" things succubus can do she is still - by her very nature as succubus - seductress extraordinaire. King has saved her from her abusive uncle single-handedly, forgetting for a moment he is a king and brawling like a school-boy when he saw the old man whipping the pretty lass. She has this amazing combination of innocence and desire, amazing body that she seems vaguely self-conscious about. For an experienced man such as king it is impossible not to notice the physical reaction his very presence has on her, covered with just a touch of embarrassment. King, noble man that he is, would have never dreamed of imposing himself on her but it was obvious how young lass was whittling away without his presence and how every little touch, smile and compliment from him would make her beam. He has installed her therefore as the Queen's lady in waiting making it easy for him to spend time with her - completely innocently of course. Furthermore, she is always willing to listen to his plans and ideas, particularly to the ones that the council (timid old man that they are) always advises against. Young lass *understands* him - she even inspires him to come up with ever greater plans, making him not only a better man but a better ruler as well. In the issues of sex, she is obviously dying to offer herself to the king but only her modesty and respect for the Queen are holding her back. Queen is old and frigid though and King understands that it is his duty to initiate young lady into the joys of bedroom. Maybe not this month, but very soon time will come when she will melt under his touch and he will get to explore that amazing body so far semi-hidden under beautiful, tasteful garments she is always wearing. In his boring everyday life it is this sort of thinking that keeps the King awake at night and gives him something to look forward to. Now some band of stinky mercenaries claims that this apple of his eye is a Demon. Into the dungeon with them ! Not how above is accomplished without a single magical effect and yet would be *hellishly* hard spell to break. As long as she is playing her cards right kings little lover-to-be can hold the moral high ground while influencing the king and remaining effectively untouchable by anyone. I can write any number of different scenarios whereby a "perfect" woman would have king entirely under her control without him ever realizing it, yet more where he would realize that she is in control and relish it, and additional dollop where he sees her in control but feels powerless to stop it and afraid/embarased to ask for help. All of that with her having absolutely no means of magical mind control. [/QUOTE]
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