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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 4177224" data-attributes="member: 22779">I wonder if ninjas abseil instead of rapell.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> True story.  I once had a player get all sorts of angry because I used a wyvern in the wrong terrain.  <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/paranoid.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":uhoh:" title="Paranoid    :uhoh:" data-shortname=":uhoh:" />But, I do agree with you.  Sure the DM can change things.  But, again, we're talking about having to wade through yards of crap in order to figure out what to change.  For example, the 3e Succubus has Suggestion.  But, also, her kiss works as a Suggestion spell, but only to make the victim give you another kiss.Umm, what?Why not just give her the Suggestion SLA?  Cast Suggestion to make someone give you lots of kisses.  There, end of story.  Instead, we have a wonky mechanic that makes an exception out of Suggestion in that it ONLY makes you give the Succubus ONE more kiss.I can understand people getting uptight about stripping away stuff from creatures, but, when you look at it, does this REALLY need to be there?  Do you really need a separate Suggestion ability?  Does it specifically HAVE to be Suggestion, considering there are a million other spells out there that you could do?  What if the succubus kisses someone in a silence spell?  What if the target is deaf?  Oh, and now we HAVE to add on the Tongue's ability so that the Kiss ability always works.Or, do you go the 4e route.  You make specific mechanics for that specific action and let DM's move beyond that if they want to.</blockquote>

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