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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Imp" data-source="post: 4178526" data-attributes="member: 40094">But this is a function of will. Two threads over we have people debating the minutiae of 4e's 6-hour-rest, a topic made for DM handwaving if ever there was one. Will that change after 4e's out for a few years? Who knows but I'm a little pessimistic.Books are nice but they can't make you do stuff or free you from your chains or whatever all by themselves. So the topic here is sort of silly. Any monster in any edition can be more than its stats if you want it to be.I'll say this: the argument that DMs will know what to do with a succubus in non-combat situations just because of its name seems off-base. Especially for new DMs, not everyone has years of running monsters under their belts. Having some sort of concrete suggestions for how a succubus goes about succubussing – which can be arbitrary, that's something about magic, having things not work according to common sense makes things seem magical – anyway, some sort of concrete process for a succubus's charm to work is the sort of thing you want a reference for, even as just a starting point.</blockquote>