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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 4179180" data-attributes="member: 710">The players will have seen a lot of the "building blocks". Shifts, weakened, immobilized, insubstantial, they might all have seen this. But they have never fought it in this combination. And I think that changes a lot. How do you fight the Phane with your abilities? How do you counter it shifting through the battlefield, while you're weakened? How do you deal with all your "special effects" if the phane removes them as a minor action? How do you keep up with it? Oh, and on the off-chance you brought it below half hit points, it gets even more dangerous. How do you deal with that? And don't forget it's "Minions" that prey on you while you're weak...A lot of the fun of fighting a Phane will be derived from coming up with tactics to counter its abilities (or, from the DM side, from coming up with tactics to use its abilities best) You won't derive the fun from looking at the stat-block alone.</blockquote>