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Monsters that mark: A pain for DMs
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<blockquote data-quote="Kunimatyu" data-source="post: 4131683" data-attributes="member: 22057"><p>I've now run two 4e demos, and both had creatures capable of marking (skeletons and kobold dragonshields), and I gotta say I'm not too fond of it.</p><p></p><p>It's fine on the player's side -- a Defender's player can just remind me which enemy they've marked so it's not additional stuff for me to remember, and one "mark" token per Defender player is minor at best.</p><p></p><p>However, when I'M the one marking, everything goes to hell in a handbasket, especially if groups of monsters have the ability. There are tokens everywhere and it's a pain to remember which skeleton put a mark on the fighter and which skeletons got their marks superseded, etc. On top of that, I have yet to see a marking monster that seriously benefits from the mechanic -- there's nothing particularly thematic about a kobold fighter or skeleton "marking" you.</p><p></p><p>Marking seems like a decent mechanic for Elite monsters, and nothing else. Minions should never mark -- there's too many of them for it to be meaningful -- and normal monsters are numerous enough that it's a pain. Solo monsters, of course, get no benefit at all from a marking ability most of the time.</p><p></p><p>Thoughts?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kunimatyu, post: 4131683, member: 22057"] I've now run two 4e demos, and both had creatures capable of marking (skeletons and kobold dragonshields), and I gotta say I'm not too fond of it. It's fine on the player's side -- a Defender's player can just remind me which enemy they've marked so it's not additional stuff for me to remember, and one "mark" token per Defender player is minor at best. However, when I'M the one marking, everything goes to hell in a handbasket, especially if groups of monsters have the ability. There are tokens everywhere and it's a pain to remember which skeleton put a mark on the fighter and which skeletons got their marks superseded, etc. On top of that, I have yet to see a marking monster that seriously benefits from the mechanic -- there's nothing particularly thematic about a kobold fighter or skeleton "marking" you. Marking seems like a decent mechanic for Elite monsters, and nothing else. Minions should never mark -- there's too many of them for it to be meaningful -- and normal monsters are numerous enough that it's a pain. Solo monsters, of course, get no benefit at all from a marking ability most of the time. Thoughts? [/QUOTE]
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