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Monsters that mark: A pain for DMs
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<blockquote data-quote="Xorn" data-source="post: 4132876" data-attributes="member: 61231"><p>I've run five fan playtest/demos now, and I haven't had any notable problems with marks. I <em>will</em> state that the most complicated part of running a 4E combat has been tracking creature marks--I just didn't find it to be of enough consequence to call it annoying.</p><p></p><p>When I ran my face-to-face game, the party was facing hobgoblins (2 soldiers, 1 archer, 1 warcaster) and my steno-pad looked like this on one round:</p><p></p><p>Kathra: init#, HP#, A (marked by A), LoF (lance of faith)</p><p>Corrin: init#, HP#, B (marked by B), bolster (bolstering strike)</p><p>Skamos: init#, HP#, AP (action point used)</p><p>Erais: init#, HP#, 1x WoH (word of healing used once)</p><p></p><p>Soldier A: init#, HP#, kathra (marked by fighter)</p><p>Soldier B: init#, HP#, corrin (marked by paladin)</p><p>Archer: init #, HP#</p><p>Warcaster: init#, HP#, pulse, lance (pulse & lance recharging)</p><p></p><p>This is remarkably similar to what my stenopad looks like when running 3.5 face-to-face, only no durations.</p><p></p><p>When running over a VTT, it was even simpler, as I just put the letter of the soldier that was marking the character next to them in my "character status" window. But since tracking stuff in a VTT is so much simpler, I didn't think that was a fair comparison. Anyway, my point is that yes, marking seems like the least "elegant" of the rules, but I don't find it warranting the term "annoying" or "concerning", in my case.</p><p></p><p>I also think it's a good point that because it's "clunky" marking for creatures might actually mean, "-2 to attack rolls that don't include a target of this type" as that <em>is</em> performing the function of marking--to penalize attacks not made on the meatshields.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Xorn, post: 4132876, member: 61231"] I've run five fan playtest/demos now, and I haven't had any notable problems with marks. I [i]will[/i] state that the most complicated part of running a 4E combat has been tracking creature marks--I just didn't find it to be of enough consequence to call it annoying. When I ran my face-to-face game, the party was facing hobgoblins (2 soldiers, 1 archer, 1 warcaster) and my steno-pad looked like this on one round: Kathra: init#, HP#, A (marked by A), LoF (lance of faith) Corrin: init#, HP#, B (marked by B), bolster (bolstering strike) Skamos: init#, HP#, AP (action point used) Erais: init#, HP#, 1x WoH (word of healing used once) Soldier A: init#, HP#, kathra (marked by fighter) Soldier B: init#, HP#, corrin (marked by paladin) Archer: init #, HP# Warcaster: init#, HP#, pulse, lance (pulse & lance recharging) This is remarkably similar to what my stenopad looks like when running 3.5 face-to-face, only no durations. When running over a VTT, it was even simpler, as I just put the letter of the soldier that was marking the character next to them in my "character status" window. But since tracking stuff in a VTT is so much simpler, I didn't think that was a fair comparison. Anyway, my point is that yes, marking seems like the least "elegant" of the rules, but I don't find it warranting the term "annoying" or "concerning", in my case. I also think it's a good point that because it's "clunky" marking for creatures might actually mean, "-2 to attack rolls that don't include a target of this type" as that [i]is[/i] performing the function of marking--to penalize attacks not made on the meatshields. [/QUOTE]
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