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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 4133266" data-attributes="member: 2011">The point is that you shouldn't have to.4E is supposed to be smoother and easier to run.And, it's not just marks that require additional bookkeeping. In the case of marks, it's who is marked by who and what does this mark do.But, there are other conditions: bloodied, combat advantage. In 3E, there is no bloodied. It's additional bookkeeping. In 3E, there are several different types of combat advantage, but many of them like flank or prone are obvious if one uses miniatures. Combat advantage in 4E is not necessarily obvious like that (but it does have the advantage of being the same bonus each time).There are also the advantages of powers which are similar levels of bookkeeping. In 3E, spell effects tended to last an entire combat. It was only necessarily to know that Bless was cast, not so much when it would expire (there were some 1 round per level exceptions, but even those disappeared once PCs got to 7th level or so).In 4E, most effects last for a turn. So although it is not especially difficult to keep track of it, it is just another bookkeeping layer of "Am I still getting the +2 advantage from the Cleric, or was that last round?".4E really looks like it will play well if people create the equivalent of MtG cards and hand them out to various players mid-game. Half RPG, half card game.</blockquote>