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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 4224516" data-attributes="member: 957">You have hit on bits of two things.  First, the PClasses you have mentioned are known for being weak already.  Just as big a difference could be achieved in a 3.5 game depending on alternative class selections.  Or at least more than close enough that the "add a feat and move on" solution would be fully adequate.I think you are greatly under rating the warlock's eldritch blast.  So I dispute that one.But I'd also say you are touching on an area of redundancy.  In order to be a "true" diviner you had to take a PClass, with Loremaster being the first choice.  (And it was still underpowered).  Why?  It makes a lot more sense for a diviner to be a great diviner.  So the Loremaster gets his space crowded.  But that isn't remotely an incompatibility, it is simply options.  If you prefer to flavor of the loremaster, then it still works perfectly fine.  Underpowered, as it already was, but like I said, "add a feat and move on".I think that last item ties in to your last comment in reverse.  You are bringing up issue that don't even cause a one second hesitation to me.  I'm completely comfortable with a game that gives me the tools, freedom and expectation to tune the system to taste.  And the difference I see in PF is smaller than some of the tweaks and 3P stuff I've been adapting into my game for years.  Very minor balance issues that are easy to adjust?  Yeah.  "Compatibility" issues?  Not remotely.  Making little bumps here and there to keep things in the same band is easy to me and a feature, not a bug.  It has literally been in the dozens of times now that I have shook my head and chuckled when someone defended 4E because it was great for "lazy DMs".  I prefer a game that gives DMs more freedom and responsibility over a game that supports "lazy DMs" and that (in part) explains why I prefer a game like 3X/PF over 4E. And honestly, we are talking about PF here.  WotC and PF should both be quite interested in what each of us think about their systems. But at the end of the day, WotC should apply a lot more weight to your views than mine when thinking about 4E.  You are in their target audience.  I'm not.  But we are not talking about 4E.  We are talking about PF.</blockquote>

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