"Monte Cook Presents" Iron Heroes?

[Felon]

Except they aren't nobodies. They are people you know. Humility isn't standing aside and letting other people take credit for your works.

Notice I also used the term "self-effacing" as well as "humble".

You can be proud of what you've done and stand up for your rights and still be humble. Humility is in knowing your limits, in knowing that you have limits, in knowing that no matter how good you are at something someone out there is better at it. Humility is acknowledging that self isn't the end-all be-all of one's existence.

Thanks for clearing that up. So, putting one's name at the top of one of their books isn't an affront to humility?

How's this for a compromise:

"Monte Cook Humbly Presents: Iron Heroes"

 

[Captain Tagon]

Thanks for clearing that up. So, putting one's name at the top of one of their books isn't an affront to humility?

How's this for a compromise:

"Monte Cook Humbly Presents: Iron Heroes"

Yeah. Except I never talked about Monte Cook being humble. Two different topics really. Putting his name on the cover was simply marketing.

 

[Teflon Billy]

Give it a miss?

Not on your life.

It sounds like exactly the kind of thing I've been waiting for fo D&D, and it's written by an author whose name pretty much guarantees quality.

As for "Monte Cook Presents..." well, he is presenting it isn't he?

 

[jeffh]

S'funny, I have nothing against Monte but if it has his name on it I think super-duper-OTT-magic hackfest - and I don't buy it.

That doesn't sound like having nothing against Monte to me.

It's also really funny because that's the exact opposite of what Iron Heroes is intended to be, especially the OTT-magic part. Due respect and everything, but if you haven't seen at least enough of the rather large amount of information available on this book to know that, what business do you have making judgments about it? Especially when you admit to having essentially no basis for it.

 

[Felon]

It's also really funny because that's the exact opposite of what Iron Heroes is intended to be, especially the OTT-magic part. Due respect and everything, but if you haven't seen at least enough of the rather large amount of information available on this book to know that, what business do you have making judgments about it?

I think you've missed his point. He associates Monte's name with OTT magic, IH plays down magic. It's an irony thing.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

Except they aren't nobodies. They are people you know. Humility isn't standing aside and letting other people take credit for your works. You can be proud of what you've done and stand up for your rights and still be humble. Humility is in knowing your limits, in knowing that you have limits, in knowing that no matter how good you are at something someone out there is better at it. Humility is acknowledging that self isn't the end-all be-all of one's existence.

Exactly. And, on the other side, there's not just standing up for your accomplishments, but bragging and being arrogant about it.

In the end it depends on how far you take it.

 

[Varianor Abroad]

I think Monte's in fine company - with Isaac Asimov.

 

[GMSkarka]

You're mistaking Monte Cook, the person, with "Monte Cook's", the brand.

Two entirely different things.

It's a fact that Monte has built up some pretty significant name recognition among the core audience, to the point where it makes sense to make use of that as a brand.

I suppose Steve Jackson was being "vulgar, crass and vain" when he named his company?

 

[SWBaxter]

I don't deny that.

I just find that vulgar and crass. :\

That's probably because the money in question is not going to pay for your mortgage. I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that Mr. Mearls is 100% in favour of anything that sells more books, because they do in fact pay for his mortgage (or rent, as the case may be).

 

[ThirdWizard]

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that Mr. Mearls is 100% in favour of anything that sells more books, because they do in fact pay for his mortgage (or rent, as the case may be).

I'd say based on Mearl's own post in this thread, he is in favor of it.

Heck, its a complement. Monte believes in this product enough to put his marker on the line with its success or failure. That in itself means that he doesn't see anything but success in it, and with backing like that, I find it difficult to disagree. I don't see a problem.