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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9379739" data-attributes="member: 6790260"><p>The red is the only chromatic I'm (very, <em>very</em> slightly) more positive than negative on. I preferred the overall look of the old one, but I recognize that there are elements that are an improvement. The wing silhouette and the longer tail both do it a service. I agree with your stated criticism elsewhere, that the new one is really weirdly chonky in several places, while being sleek in others--it's like they couldn't decide whether to make it hefty or svelte and ended up making it kind of both.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I definitively dislike it. In fairness, I wasn't exactly <em>fond</em> of the 3e/etc. art. I just think this is worse.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The weird...under-chin-horns and flat head just don't work for me. Maybe it's the perspective, I dunno, but I just do not like how either of these images look.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I STRONGLY dislike the stupid double-swept horns. The skull-face is an improvement, I'll cop to that, but everything else doesn't do it for me. Especially the xenomorph-style knobs along the spine/tail and the <em>creepy as feck</em> spider-leg-like protrusions on the wings. I have moderate to severe arachnophobia. No spiders please. No spiders <em>ever</em>.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I guess I'm kind of the same, since (as you say) we haven't seen much. But it looks...furred? And I'm not about that.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The art you showed has a tail approximately equal to the dragon's body length. Especially since both the neck and the spine are arched in the shown image.</p><p></p><p>I hate, <em>hate hate hate</em>, the new gold. I cannot stand it. I think it looks <em>horrible</em>. It is, by far, the worst "official" dragon design I've ever seen.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm genuinely not sure how you can't see the changes, <em>especially</em> given your complaints about the red. It's obviously WAY chonkier, to the point that it has an outright barrel chest; the face is weirdly flattened and widened, and the legs are now squat and wide rather than long and graceful. It looks like a hippopotamus with wings, not a refined and elegant dragon.</p><p></p><p></p><p>As noted above, this is probably the one I'll have to concede--though this <em>should</em> have been the copper, not the bronze, so I've no idea how they're going to do the copper. Also, this is a tail length that's actually reasonable; the gold's is WELL over 2x the body length, pushing 3x. (Having just checked myself, the tail is almost exactly 2.5x the length of the gold dragon's chin-to-hamstring length when stretched straight.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 9379739, member: 6790260"] The red is the only chromatic I'm (very, [I]very[/I] slightly) more positive than negative on. I preferred the overall look of the old one, but I recognize that there are elements that are an improvement. The wing silhouette and the longer tail both do it a service. I agree with your stated criticism elsewhere, that the new one is really weirdly chonky in several places, while being sleek in others--it's like they couldn't decide whether to make it hefty or svelte and ended up making it kind of both. I definitively dislike it. In fairness, I wasn't exactly [I]fond[/I] of the 3e/etc. art. I just think this is worse. The weird...under-chin-horns and flat head just don't work for me. Maybe it's the perspective, I dunno, but I just do not like how either of these images look. I STRONGLY dislike the stupid double-swept horns. The skull-face is an improvement, I'll cop to that, but everything else doesn't do it for me. Especially the xenomorph-style knobs along the spine/tail and the [I]creepy as feck[/I] spider-leg-like protrusions on the wings. I have moderate to severe arachnophobia. No spiders please. No spiders [I]ever[/I]. I guess I'm kind of the same, since (as you say) we haven't seen much. But it looks...furred? And I'm not about that. The art you showed has a tail approximately equal to the dragon's body length. Especially since both the neck and the spine are arched in the shown image. I hate, [I]hate hate hate[/I], the new gold. I cannot stand it. I think it looks [I]horrible[/I]. It is, by far, the worst "official" dragon design I've ever seen. I'm genuinely not sure how you can't see the changes, [I]especially[/I] given your complaints about the red. It's obviously WAY chonkier, to the point that it has an outright barrel chest; the face is weirdly flattened and widened, and the legs are now squat and wide rather than long and graceful. It looks like a hippopotamus with wings, not a refined and elegant dragon. As noted above, this is probably the one I'll have to concede--though this [I]should[/I] have been the copper, not the bronze, so I've no idea how they're going to do the copper. Also, this is a tail length that's actually reasonable; the gold's is WELL over 2x the body length, pushing 3x. (Having just checked myself, the tail is almost exactly 2.5x the length of the gold dragon's chin-to-hamstring length when stretched straight.) [/QUOTE]
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