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<blockquote data-quote="Mercurius" data-source="post: 6384584" data-attributes="member: 59082"><p>Yeah, I think it is pretty clear from insiders that 4E did poorly in terms of acquiring new players and keeping existing ones. Tthis goes against the view that I've seen floated that 4E only "failed" in that it didn't reach company expectations. But I think it goes much deeper than that, especially given what Mearls, Tweet, and Dancey said. Dancey tends to have a pretty good read on such things and even if he's off by a significant margin--say half rather than one-third--that still means that D&D now has half the players that it did in 2000. That's not simply a matter of not reaching expectations, but actually flopping.</p><p></p><p>Now part of that is Pathfinder, so if we use a broader definition of D&D then perhaps the overall fan base hasn't shrunk. I honestly have no idea. But I think it is safe to say that people who play D&D (logo) are fewer than they were a decade+ ago.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mercurius, post: 6384584, member: 59082"] Yeah, I think it is pretty clear from insiders that 4E did poorly in terms of acquiring new players and keeping existing ones. Tthis goes against the view that I've seen floated that 4E only "failed" in that it didn't reach company expectations. But I think it goes much deeper than that, especially given what Mearls, Tweet, and Dancey said. Dancey tends to have a pretty good read on such things and even if he's off by a significant margin--say half rather than one-third--that still means that D&D now has half the players that it did in 2000. That's not simply a matter of not reaching expectations, but actually flopping. Now part of that is Pathfinder, so if we use a broader definition of D&D then perhaps the overall fan base hasn't shrunk. I honestly have no idea. But I think it is safe to say that people who play D&D (logo) are fewer than they were a decade+ ago. [/QUOTE]
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