[Mor's End Discussion] Time to open shop!

lalato said:


A further compromise for Conaill on Eric's Grandmother...

Lady Kelvin has a deep dark secret... she lives a second life as a man... As Erek Noahn she is the leader of the [insert Mage's Council or Merchant's Guild]... giving her complete control of everything that goes on in the city.

No one has ever seen Erek Noahn and Lady Kelvin together... there are rumors in the city that they are lovers... no one suspects the truth.

--sam

How about Erik Noahan, instead. It looks better, IMO. Opinions?

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Or Erek Nohan

Rob
 
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Opinions on these ideas? Should we even consider provinces or a special proper name?

Proper Name: ?
Government: ?
Provinces: ?
Alignments: ?
Religions: ?
Allies: ?
Enemies: ?
 
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Coinage!

Here's an interesting conversation I just came up with as to why minted city gold peices are referred to as hammers.

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"I won't sell it for less than 50." The merchant eyes his latest customer with curiousity. He's got the coin, the merchant can tell.

"Come on, I can get a better sword for less from the desert tribesmen south of here."

"I don't think so." The merchant shakes his head.

"Come on, as least let's haggle a little. I am interested."

"You want to haggle, huh?" The merchant smiles. "Alright, let's hammer out a price."
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Heh, heh!

Rob

editied for inflation...
 
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How about Erik Noahan, instead. It looks better, IMO. Opinions?

{EDIT}

Or Erek Nohan

I was using Erek Noahn because that was one of the city names in the poll. We can change the spelling... that's not a problem.

Apart from the spelling does anyone have comments about the compromise on Eric's Grandmother?

Opinions on these ideas? Should we even consider provinces or a special proper name?

Proper Name: ?
Government: ?
Provinces: ?
Alignments: ?
Religions: ?
Allies: ?
Enemies: ?

A city with this many natural resources would be a jewel in any empire or kingdom. I'm not sure if this is part of a major country... or if it's a separate city-state. Once we figure that out... we can start assigning values to the above...

--sam
 

lalato said:
I was using Erek Noahn because that was one of the city names in the poll. We can change the spelling... that's not a problem.

Understood. No biggie!

lalato said:
A city with this many natural resources would be a jewel in any empire or kingdom. I'm not sure if this is part of a major country... or if it's a separate city-state. Once we figure that out... we can start assigning values to the above...

I think a separate, independent city-state is best. Otherwise we open up a HUGE can-o-worms.
 
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Knightfall1972 said:
Opinions on these ideas? Should we even consider provinces or a special proper name?

Proper Name: ?
Government: ?
Provinces: ?
Alignments: ?
Religions: ?
Allies: ?
Enemies: ?

Proper Name: No real need.
Government: Yes. Independent city-state.
I agree she shouldn't be called "Eric's Grandmother", but should be an unseen force
Provinces: No
Religions: No, except for 'small' gods
Enemies: Not in any great depth

The end point at this stage should be a 3-4 page dossier that people can refer to.

I'll post thread to discuss the 'administration' of this project. I think it's best for one person to take care of crucial aspects. eg: if you want to take care of the merchant part, you make the final decisions on trades etc. You have to read what others suggest, but you determine what is taken in. You act as the Minister of 'Trades' for example. The three points I can see now are: Name, Trade, Geography. I'll be the final Dictator of the Name of course. :D

REMEMBER; this is just the blueprint. A week from now or so, we'll be asking EN Worlders to contribute NPCs. After that shops and so on. We want to tap into the creative collective that's here.

And Thanks Knightfall for collating. :)
 
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lalato said:
Lady Kelvin has a deep dark secret... she lives a second life as a man... As Erek Noahn she is the leader of the [insert Mage's Council or Merchant's Guild]... giving her complete control of everything that goes on in the city.

Sorry, but I don't think this sort of secrets work very well when you're working out a setting for others to play in.

Example:

FRCS: "Elminster and the leader of the Red Wizards of Thay are really one and the same person. But nobody knows this"

Newbie player who just read the FRCS: "Aha! I know your secret!"

See what I mean?

Besides, I still think Eric's grandma, however she is named, should *never* be seen in public. If you ever get face-to-face with the true leader of the city, you're way in over your head! :D

Sorry, can't help you statting her up. I would probably pick some sort of PrC that gives her the ability to listen in or scry on any conversation throughout her realm - if we're putting in an in-joke, we might as well do it right, no? ;)

Loremaster or Divine Oracle sound appropriate, no? Hang on... just did a search for PrC that have ranks in Scry as a prereq, and guess what should turn up? Entropist! :D:D:D From Lords of Darkness, it's a specialty priest for the "deity" of entropy. Now ain't that appropriate!
 

A bigger problem in my literal mind is that swamp and clay beds don't go together. At least, I don't think so. But I'm not a geologist.

I see your point. Perhaps the clay deposits are on islands on the lake side of the city... If that doesn't work... they could be in the hills just to the north of the city.

A small tributary dumps water into the lowlands just south of the city... forming a swamp... as you go further south, the swamps open up into hilly moors. The moors flatten out into plains and steppes until you reach the desert far to the south.

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Proper Name: Mor's End is the city name... are we giving it another "proper" name, too?
Provinces: None
Alignments: CG, CN, NG, N (it's supposed to be somewhat chaotic)
Religions: Merchant deities would be big here... there might also be local cults to minor deities
Allies: Dwarves of Kul Moren


--sam
 
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Krug said:
Religions: No, except for 'small' gods

Interesting. Perhaps it should also be common knowledge that excessive discussion of religion or politics is frowned upon by "grandma". :)

(The common folk can still call her "grandma" affectionately, right? I love lalato's suggestion of "Nonna Deleric" for her real name though...)
 
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Conaill said:


Interesting. Perhaps it should also be common knowledge that excessive discussion of religion or politics is frowned upon by "grandma". :)

(The common folk can still call her "grandma" affectionately, right? I love lalato's suggestion of "Nonna Deleric" for her real name though...)

Actually let me clarify. 'No' as in there's no need to build or create major Gods. Deities are something very campaign specific, and I see little point in doing them since this city is meant for generic use.

Small Gods are gods of geographical bodies in the region or highly limited spheres unique to the area.
 
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