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<blockquote data-quote="jgbrowning" data-source="post: 809380" data-attributes="member: 5724"><p>Here's a few excerpts from Cipolla...</p><p></p><p>**In 1330 Florence (pop. 90,000) a guy died w/o heirs and he gave 6 pennies to each poor person. He gave over 430 pounds in farthing, and they were in number more than 17,000 persons.</p><p></p><p>Late 1400's Antwerp had 12% of the pop as beggers, Louvain had 18% as beggers, and Hamburg had 20% as beggers.**</p><p></p><p>Determining the amount of beggars (basically most immigrants would fall into this or the laborer category) coming into Mor's End depends a lot upon the social structures outside the city within 30 or so miles. Does Mor's end provide the "a year in the city makes a person free of service obligation to the lord" option that many cities did? If so, there will be lots of incomers who simply want to leave what they view as a hopeless situation. Sure the city maybe just as hopeless, but they're not %100 certain as they are of the country.</p><p></p><p>joe b.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jgbrowning, post: 809380, member: 5724"] Here's a few excerpts from Cipolla... **In 1330 Florence (pop. 90,000) a guy died w/o heirs and he gave 6 pennies to each poor person. He gave over 430 pounds in farthing, and they were in number more than 17,000 persons. Late 1400's Antwerp had 12% of the pop as beggers, Louvain had 18% as beggers, and Hamburg had 20% as beggers.** Determining the amount of beggars (basically most immigrants would fall into this or the laborer category) coming into Mor's End depends a lot upon the social structures outside the city within 30 or so miles. Does Mor's end provide the "a year in the city makes a person free of service obligation to the lord" option that many cities did? If so, there will be lots of incomers who simply want to leave what they view as a hopeless situation. Sure the city maybe just as hopeless, but they're not %100 certain as they are of the country. joe b. [/QUOTE]
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