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<blockquote data-quote="Conaill" data-source="post: 810470" data-attributes="member: 1264">Hmm... That might be the core of our disagreement on beggars <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />. In almost all the cities I've played in, under all the DM's I've played under, there have been beggars present. Sure, they don't often play an important role to the plot, and they'll be virtually invisible to most PC's. Then again, that's what tends to happen with beggars anyway... people just tune them out.But when my NG cleric says &quot;I'll go down to the poorer parts of town and provide healthcare to the beggars and destitute&quot;, you can bet he finds a whole bunch of them!Anyone seen &quot;Gangs of New York&quot;? Wrong time period, but that's what the poorer parts of Mor's End will tend to look like. Not even the Squats mind you, for that you'd have to look at slums in third world countries: people living in raw sewage, children dying in the street, etc. (Anyone have any other good movie references? &quot;Jabberwocky&quot; is another one that comes to mind...)On a personal note, living in the centrum of Cambridge MA, during the 5 minute walk from my appartment to the bus stop, I pass by (hm... let's see... both sides of the street...) at least 10 homeless people. Probably some more if I count the ones hanging out around the bus stop itself. A medieval city is going to have at least several times that number of beggars in the streets. I find it much more plausible that the PC's simply don't notice them anymore because they're so used to them. (Besides, they are probably being kept away from the better parts of town, even more so than in current days.)Ok, I'll see what I can do. I have to write up Thora's followers anyway, most of which will be beggars. For now, let's assume jgbrowning's lower limit of 700, and assume that most PC's simply will tune out the beggars on the street...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Conaill, post: 810470, member: 1264"] Hmm... That might be the core of our disagreement on beggars ;). In almost all the cities I've played in, under all the DM's I've played under, there have been beggars present. Sure, they don't often play an important role to the plot, and they'll be virtually invisible to most PC's. Then again, that's what tends to happen with beggars anyway... people just tune them out. But when my NG cleric says "I'll go down to the poorer parts of town and provide healthcare to the beggars and destitute", you can bet he finds a whole bunch of them! Anyone seen "Gangs of New York"? Wrong time period, but that's what the poorer parts of Mor's End will tend to look like. Not even the Squats mind you, for that you'd have to look at slums in third world countries: people living in raw sewage, children dying in the street, etc. (Anyone have any other good movie references? "Jabberwocky" is another one that comes to mind...) On a personal note, living in the centrum of Cambridge MA, during the 5 minute walk from my appartment to the bus stop, I pass by (hm... let's see... both sides of the street...) at least 10 homeless people. Probably some more if I count the ones hanging out around the bus stop itself. A medieval city is going to have [i]at least[/i] several times that number of beggars in the streets. I find it much more plausible that the PC's simply don't notice them anymore because they're so used to them. (Besides, they are probably being kept away from the better parts of town, even more so than in current days.) Ok, I'll see what I can do. I have to write up Thora's followers anyway, most of which will be beggars. For now, let's assume jgbrowning's lower limit of 700, and assume that most PC's simply will tune out the beggars on the street... [/QUOTE]

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