Most broken prestige classes?

[Slaved]

The glossary, where definitions of unusual or specificly defined terminology goes.

Ok, wizards glossary it is.

A divine spell belonging to a domain. Each domain offers one spell of each spell level. In addition to their normal daily complement of spells, clerics can cast one domain spell per day for each spell level that their caster levels allow. This spell may be from either of their domains. Domain spells cannot be exchanged for cure or inflict spells.

A divine spell belonging to a domain.

Cure light wounds is a spell belonging to the healing domain.

The radiants ability requiers casting a domain spell from the healing domain.

Still nothing about it needing to be cast from the domain slot to get the benefit though.

 

[pawsplay]

Agreed. And let's not forget about a heal check to assist with the secondary save against poison.... or provide long-term care, treat disease or caltrop wounds.... it is more than just dealing with stabilising a dying creature.

... most of which can be done by a Wis 18 cleric taking 10 with a single rank in Heal. The exceptions are poisons and diseases, for which you have effective spells, either to remove the vector or to simply remove conditions and ability damage after the fact. Those DCs vary.

 

[pawsplay]

Cure light wounds is a spell belonging to the healing domain.

It is a spell offered by the healing domain. You can also choose the domain spell offered by your other domain.

 

[Slaved]

No, that pretty much says the opposite of that. It says domain spells are the spells you get from domains, and if they're not cleric spells, they're still not cleric spells for you.

Domain spells are spells that are on the domain list. If you do not have it on your normal cleric list then you still cannot put it into your normal slots, without further help at least.

Which is what I said so it cannot be the opposite of it. Although since they are divine spells cast by a cleric I would have to say that you are incorrect about them not being cleric spells. They are just spells not on the general cleric list. But that is semantics.

 

[NilesB]

Domain spells cannot be exchanged for cure or inflict spells.

So by your reading every time wizards publishes a new domain clerical Spontaneous Casting loses more utility?

 

[Slaved]

By my reading the radiant does not say that the spell comes from the domain slot, it merely needs to be a spell on the domain list.

 

[Legildur]

... most of which can be done by a Wis 18 cleric taking 10 with a single rank in Heal. The exceptions are poisons and diseases, for which you have effective spells, either to remove the vector or to simply remove conditions and ability damage after the fact. Those DCs vary.

I think you are reinforcing my point Particularly as Remove Disease (Clr3) and Neutralise Poison (Clr4) may not be immediately available.

However, you have a good point about the DC15 checks for the more mundane uses.

 

[wildstarsreach]

If the Radiant Servant is better at healing and turning than a regular cleric, does it make the class broken? He's specializing quite heavily to enter the class in terms of skills and domains. It's like calling the Invisible blade broken because it's better at dagger fighting than a rogue, or the dwarven defender because is more resilient than a fighter.

Radiant Servents give up nothing. They gain everything that a cleric has and more. The become the ultimate undead killer. That doesn't mean that you be beaten but you get great bang for the buck.

 

[NilesB]

By my reading the radiant does not say that the spell comes from the domain slot, it merely needs to be a spell on the domain list.

By that reading if a first level cleric of Pelor were to prepare Cause fear, it would continue to be a Death domain spell even cast out of a cleric spell slot rather than a domain spell slot. If this first level cleric of Pelor were to decide that a cure light wounds would be more useful than cause fear, he would then run afoul of the PHB prescription against exchanging domain spells that you quoted 6 posts up.

 

[Slaved]

Which of course shows, yet again, that the glossary sucks. It is often wrong or misleading.

However, you have not shown anything to support your case other than the last line of the glossary might pose problems somewhere else in the rules, which is not actually support for your case at all.

I would have no problem with it being true that only the domain slots prepared with healing domain spells work with the classes ability, but you have not shown that it is the case. There are several places which point to the opposite so far in fact.