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<blockquote data-quote="ruleslawyer" data-source="post: 1579694" data-attributes="member: 1757"><p>Er, no, Psion. Let's go back and review my "harp[ing] on blast mages, shall we?</p><p></p><p>Arguments in my first post:</p><p></p><p>1) MTs are weaker because they can't beat SR. This is the blast mage point. Note: <em>One</em> argument among the others. Alone</p><p></p><p>2) No access to high-level spells. This is not a blast mage point, but an overall power point. The fact is that whether you are a blast or utility caster, you work from the top on down, because the high-level spells really are that much better. Lacking access to one, often two entire levels of spells compared with a straight caster even at the top of the PrC is a real problem for the MT.</p><p></p><p>3) Less additional versatility than you might think (my cleric w/domains vs. MT point). Again, not a "blast mage" point, but an "MT counts for less in the versatility domain than you might think" point.</p><p></p><p>And the wrap-around argument: SHOW me how the MT becomes a "spotlight hog" when experience in my campaigns and testing on the WotC Char Optimization boards shows the MT to be an excellent (and not overpowered!) cohort and support character, but lacking in the raw power to be a spotlight hog. </p><p></p><p>Arguments in YOUR first post:</p><p></p><p>"Fixating on SR" is a strawman argument, Psion. </p><p></p><p>Fair, and I responded to these arguments individually in the following post. <em>Directly</em> responded, as follows:</p><p></p><p></p><p>My response: The Travel domain does have teleport. And:</p><p></p><p>Then you come at me with:</p><p></p><p>So you're telling me that this <em>isn't</em> a strawman argument? And that I didn't respond to your arguments directly?</p><p>Then, of course, your next post says the following:</p><p></p><p>These arguments seem to not even acknowledge the counter-arguments that I (and, subsequently, Psiblade) raised regarding your posts. Moreover, you play up the SR thing again, which was ONE (count it) of my arguments and represents approximately 20% of my post(s) on the issue. That is what I meant by "strawman," and there's no need to assume that I was being personal; this is an issue of what I feel is an insufficient response to my arguments, not a personal attack. If you felt that I was turning up the heat, I apologize.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ruleslawyer, post: 1579694, member: 1757"] Er, no, Psion. Let's go back and review my "harp[ing] on blast mages, shall we? Arguments in my first post: 1) MTs are weaker because they can't beat SR. This is the blast mage point. Note: [i]One[/i] argument among the others. Alone 2) No access to high-level spells. This is not a blast mage point, but an overall power point. The fact is that whether you are a blast or utility caster, you work from the top on down, because the high-level spells really are that much better. Lacking access to one, often two entire levels of spells compared with a straight caster even at the top of the PrC is a real problem for the MT. 3) Less additional versatility than you might think (my cleric w/domains vs. MT point). Again, not a "blast mage" point, but an "MT counts for less in the versatility domain than you might think" point. And the wrap-around argument: SHOW me how the MT becomes a "spotlight hog" when experience in my campaigns and testing on the WotC Char Optimization boards shows the MT to be an excellent (and not overpowered!) cohort and support character, but lacking in the raw power to be a spotlight hog. Arguments in YOUR first post: "Fixating on SR" is a strawman argument, Psion. Fair, and I responded to these arguments individually in the following post. [i]Directly[/i] responded, as follows: My response: The Travel domain does have teleport. And: Then you come at me with: So you're telling me that this [i]isn't[/i] a strawman argument? And that I didn't respond to your arguments directly? Then, of course, your next post says the following: These arguments seem to not even acknowledge the counter-arguments that I (and, subsequently, Psiblade) raised regarding your posts. Moreover, you play up the SR thing again, which was ONE (count it) of my arguments and represents approximately 20% of my post(s) on the issue. That is what I meant by "strawman," and there's no need to assume that I was being personal; this is an issue of what I feel is an insufficient response to my arguments, not a personal attack. If you felt that I was turning up the heat, I apologize. [/QUOTE]
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