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<blockquote data-quote="Axiomatic Unicorn" data-source="post: 82443" data-attributes="member: 1974"><p>Hmmm.</p><p></p><p>I am not convinced. So far, the idea is that a feat is a feat. They may not all be perfectly equal, but they are in the same range.</p><p></p><p>Before WotW, nothing had ever indicated that a fighter 16th level bonus feat was worth more than the 4th level bonus feat. That is no longer true.</p><p></p><p>So feats required higher level to take, cure, but that did not make the feat simply better, it just defined the feat as one that took more experience to achieve.</p><p></p><p>For example, improved critical is certainly a good feat, but it is not vastly superior to weapon specialization. Certainly not 2 to 4 times as good.</p><p></p><p>Forge ring requires a caster level of 12 while brew potion only requires a CL of 3. But that makes sense becuase rings are typically much more powerful than potions so a more powerful spellcaster would be needed. However, the costs in gold and exp to make a ring is much higher than the cost to brew a potion. So it can not really be said that the ability to make great items at high cost is really better than the ability to make minor items at low cost. Forge ring and brew potion are reasonably equal in power. It certainly would not be an automatic assumption that a wizard would never select brew potion as his 12th level feat. Whereas it is an automatic that the fighter will always take the best toughness feat. </p><p></p><p>Therefore, higher level feat slots become more valuabel than lower level feat slots. That is a fundamental change.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Axiomatic Unicorn, post: 82443, member: 1974"] Hmmm. I am not convinced. So far, the idea is that a feat is a feat. They may not all be perfectly equal, but they are in the same range. Before WotW, nothing had ever indicated that a fighter 16th level bonus feat was worth more than the 4th level bonus feat. That is no longer true. So feats required higher level to take, cure, but that did not make the feat simply better, it just defined the feat as one that took more experience to achieve. For example, improved critical is certainly a good feat, but it is not vastly superior to weapon specialization. Certainly not 2 to 4 times as good. Forge ring requires a caster level of 12 while brew potion only requires a CL of 3. But that makes sense becuase rings are typically much more powerful than potions so a more powerful spellcaster would be needed. However, the costs in gold and exp to make a ring is much higher than the cost to brew a potion. So it can not really be said that the ability to make great items at high cost is really better than the ability to make minor items at low cost. Forge ring and brew potion are reasonably equal in power. It certainly would not be an automatic assumption that a wizard would never select brew potion as his 12th level feat. Whereas it is an automatic that the fighter will always take the best toughness feat. Therefore, higher level feat slots become more valuabel than lower level feat slots. That is a fundamental change. [/QUOTE]
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