[MotW] WotC back to its old tricks

[Wolfspider]

EDIT: Smartalec reply removed so Grendel doesn't come to my house, break open the doors, and eat my guests.

 

[Heretic Apostate]

Dire sharks?

Okay, maybe I'm missing something, and I admit I don't know the rules, but at the top of the MOTW preview, it states that the druid can't choose a dire animal shape, yet the last paragraph states that choosing a dire shark form would be perfect for long sea travels.....

 

[Wolfspider]

At 5th level, a druid gains the spell-like ability to turn herself into a Small or Medium-size animal (but not a dire animal or a legendary animal) and back again once per day. The druid may adopt only one animal form per use of this ability.

but....

At 12th level and beyond, she can take the form of a dire animal.

 

[SpikeyFreak]

It seems pretty dumb to me.

And the part about Con not affecting HP seems just stupid.

--Against-the-Grain Spikey

 

[RangerWickett]

I think it's smart to limit wildshape so you don't gain extra HP from a new form with a high constution. A barbarian can rage for an extra 2 hp per level, but if you have a low Con druid that goes into a powerful animal form, he could gain as much as 10 hp per level, and he wouldn't be winded afterward. That's a little overpowered. Also, it's just easier to not have to do the math.

And if you turned into a creature with a lower constitution (say you're a Dwarf Druid with a 20 Con who turns into a parrot), would you want to lose most of your HP?

 

[Wolfspider]

Very good reasoning, Rangerwickett. Likewise, I'm not really upset (despite what I said previously) that druids would be able to get the wolverine's special rage ability. It's not a gamebreaker.

 

[Palcadon]

Oh, I can't believe it!!! This is horrible!!! My god!!! I'm going to sell all of my D&D3E and D20 books to the local gaming store and get out while I can!!! Oh, the humanity, the humanity!!! It's horrible!!! WotC, those bastards, are back to their old tricks!!! Yes, they're always trying to trick us and ruin our enjoyment of the game!!! GRRRRR, I'm so torn up over this!!!

Ummm........ Does this mean that I shouldn't put up any of those great ME documents of yours?



Palc

 

[Wolfspider]

Heh.

 

[ColonelHardisson]

I don't see what the big deal is. So you don't get the hit point benefit of the increased CON. You do get the bonus to Fort saves, right?

Something like that, which isn't really a goof, isn't going to keep me from buying the book.

 

[Holy Bovine]

I don't think Grendel said he wasn't going to buy the book Col. just that he needed to complain about an a error he thought he found

Rage=special ability=get STR and CON bonuses