MTG with better storyline?

[Corvidae]

Maybe it is just me, but does it seem that magic the gathering has a better and more cohesive storyline than most campaign setting. I mean, look at Ravnica, it is a land controlled by several guilds, each complex, and each seeking its own goals. It seems to me that more thought and cohesiveness and especially depth goes into magic the gathering than say eberron.

Don't get me wrong, eberron is a good campaign setting, it has a cohesive element, and works well. But the dragon marked houses do not constitute what the guilds do in ravnica. The dragon marked houses are important, but they have not been delved into as much and do not seem to be quite the powerhouses that the guilds are. And the guilds in ravnica have no prestige classes written about them, are not divided due to race, and simply want control based on tradition.

Let me know what you think.

John

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

I think we've all been waiting, confused, for Ravnica to come out as a D&D setting. There's at least a setting book, a spells/PrCs book and a monsters book there.

And yet, stony silence from WotC, go figure.

 

[Crothian]

I think it has the illusion of being more complete. Eberron gives us a full campaign setting, the magic cards give us pieces of one and then we fill in the gaps.

 

[painandgreed]

It's all about Mishra and Urza.

 

[frankthedm]

I think we've all been waiting, confused, for Ravnica to come out as a D&D setting. There's at least a setting book, a spells/PrCs book and a monsters book there.

And yet, stony silence from WotC, go figure.

I'd love to see Kamigawa become the new "Oriental Adventures". But it ain't happening.

 

[Land Outcast]

wasn't there a fan setting out there? (not about Ravinica, but yet based on MTG)

 

[Corvidae]

crothian, I think I might agree with you, sometimes our minds can fill in the blanks more easily than if they are filled.

I was actually thinking that the style guides that make all the magic cards coherent with eachother might have more to do with it than anything.

Let me know

John

 

[Woas]

I'd like to see a setting based on Fallen Empires. I quit M:tg a while ago so I don't know what all these new-fangled sets are about...

 

[ThirdWizard]

Weren't the M:tG people against their stuff being used for D&D? That's what I heard anyway.

My friends read the books (they come with fat packs), and from what I hear, Ravnica is pretty neat. Almost like... oh, I don't know... Sigil.

 

[frankthedm]

Weren't the M:tG people against their stuff being used for D&D? That's what I heard anyway.

http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?t=164488

I think I understand mostly why Wotc won’t make M:tG campaign settings.

If all players are Planeswalkers:
The setting would be “epic”{very high level} risking not selling well.
The players would likely be fighting against one another.
If it is close enough to the M:tG experience it would literately compete with the M:tG game.[big no-no for a business]
Thus D&D team says no to PC Planswalkers

If the players are not Planeswalkers, the Planeswalkers must be present at their strength as presented in the card game or product identity is diminished. Having those beings fighting one another on your home-world is really bad for PCs. They would live in constant danger of;
Being called and forced to do the bidding of those god like Planeswalkers. I say called, rather than summoned, since their bodies stick around after they are killed.
Being obliterated in one of the numerous creature sweeping / world destroying affects the Planeswalkers have at their command.
Thus the M:tg team says no to M:tg settings without Planeswalkers as powerful as presented in the M:tG Product Identity, and the D&D team says that’s too unfun for our D&D edition..

Now a fan made compiling of the setting material can get around the Planeswalker issue by simply saying the world has been spared their attention for the time being or hand waving their strength down to levels where PC won’t need to wory about a [card]Planar Collapse[/card] or less pleasant affect ruining the world. Some settings NEED Planeswalkers, but I think many of the settings are incredibly flavorful, have well developed setting framework, and have some of the nastiest monsters to fight in all the realms of imagination.