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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TheCosmicKid" data-source="post: 7429724" data-attributes="member: 6683613">And as usual, you present highly speculative hypotheses as though they were universal truths without any citations or arguments. Remember, humanity had already spread all over the world before the Neolithic Revolution, so trying to make general claims about what paleolithic societies were like is going to be no less perilous and error-prone than making general claims about what all the societies on Earth are like today. Remember, too, that some societies on Earth today are still paleolithic, or were until recently, so we don't have to speculate about what a paleolithic society might look like -- we can go ask. And sure enough, they are very diverse. Some are peaceful, some are extremely violent (but even the peaceful ones have per capita violent death rates far higher than Western nations). Some are patriarchal, some are more egalitarian (actual matriarchies are hard to find, though the details are controversial). Gay and bisexual people are universal; nothing cultural about orientation. Trans people are universal too, but their status is conceptualized very differently from society to society, and because they're less frequent than gay people, any given tribe may well not have or have encountered any. And although there are some exceptions, most societies know what sex is for. There do exist countless other varying beliefs and misconceptions about sex, but as this is a family forum I won't go into any further detail.And on the subject of bonobos, it is a mistake to try and draw conclusions about human behavior from them. Humans are not their closest living relatives: other chimpanzees are. And if bonobos can be so different from other chimps, how much more different can they be from us, who branched off a few million years earlier and adopted a wildly different lifestyle? Furthermore, for what it's worth, it turns out they are less idyllic than they have gotten a reputation for. Violence, including sexual violence, is well within their observed capabilities.</blockquote>

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