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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 9131236" data-attributes="member: 42582">I'm not particularly invested in what gets counted as a &quot;traditional&quot; RPG, and as I've said I don't know what &quot;narrative&quot; means as an adjective of RPGs.But I think Star Wars, given that it is a version of epic fantasy but in space, should have emotional significance to the character affecting actions in a fashion that is not (say) part of CoC, which is all about the impersonality of the threats to humanity, nor a part of (say) a gritty or noir-ish game. And certainly not a part of an expedience-oriented RPG like classic D&amp;D.If Luke's attempt to do such-and-such does not differ, in terms of resolution, whether he is dealing with a random ice monster or dealing with Darth Vader, I don't think the game has done very well in capturing Star Wars themes. There are of course many mechanical ways this can be implemented.I do think this is a difference from The Hobbit. Less so from LotR.I can't comment on Monster of the Week. 4e has action resolution mechanics that are focused on the success or failure of action. So does Apocalypse World (which surely gets to be a paradigm of PbtA!).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 9131236, member: 42582"] I'm not particularly invested in what gets counted as a "traditional" RPG, and as I've said I don't know what "narrative" means as an adjective of RPGs. But I think Star Wars, given that it is a version of epic fantasy but in space, should have emotional significance to the character affecting actions in a fashion that is not (say) part of CoC, which is all about the impersonality of the threats to humanity, nor a part of (say) a gritty or noir-ish game. And certainly not a part of an expedience-oriented RPG like classic D&D. If Luke's attempt to do such-and-such does not differ, in terms of resolution, whether he is dealing with a random ice monster or dealing with Darth Vader, I don't think the game has done very well in capturing Star Wars themes. There are of course many mechanical ways this can be implemented. I do think this is a difference from The Hobbit. Less so from LotR. I can't comment on Monster of the Week. 4e has action resolution mechanics that are focused on the success or failure of action. So does Apocalypse World (which surely gets to be a paradigm of PbtA!). [/QUOTE]

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