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<blockquote data-quote="aramis erak" data-source="post: 9133309" data-attributes="member: 6779310">For me, that's the second strongest of them... and while some would lump Skill &amp; Finesse vs Raw Power, we get a bunch characters with Power vs Finesse elements that are somewhat transcendent of the coming of age element...In order filmed<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Luke - lots of power with the force, no finnesse, limited and LONG road, only finally resolved in Ep IIX vs Ben &amp; Yoda</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Anakin/Vader vs Qui-gon then Obi-wan</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Asoka and both Obi-wan and Anakin (TCW)</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Rey and Kylo - both in relation to Leia. Leia is subtle with her use of the Force, but stupidly powerful. <ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">After all, Leia's likely how Han winds up a force ghost...</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Kylo is not stronger than Rey. He is much more skilled. (But apparently not as skilled as Leia...)</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Rei is clearly the powerhouse when she takes on daddy... needing Kylo's assistance. Turning kylo light side just in time to die.</li>
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</ul>The only &quot;redemption arc&quot; that doesn't wind up in a pretty immediate force ghost is Luke himself... but he, too, goes to be one with the Force.This is why I break it out from the coming of age - because for many of the characters, there's also the Coming of death element.&quot;Luminous beings are we! Not this crude matter!&quot; Master Yoda, Ep V</blockquote>

[QUOTE="aramis erak, post: 9133309, member: 6779310"] For me, that's the second strongest of them... and while some would lump Skill & Finesse vs Raw Power, we get a bunch characters with Power vs Finesse elements that are somewhat transcendent of the coming of age element... In order filmed [LIST] [*]Luke - lots of power with the force, no finnesse, limited and LONG road, only finally resolved in Ep IIX vs Ben & Yoda [*]Anakin/Vader vs Qui-gon then Obi-wan [*]Asoka and both Obi-wan and Anakin (TCW) [*]Rey and Kylo - both in relation to Leia. Leia is subtle with her use of the Force, but stupidly powerful. [LIST] [*]After all, Leia's likely how Han winds up a force ghost... [*]Kylo is not stronger than Rey. He is much more skilled. (But apparently not as skilled as Leia...) [*]Rei is clearly the powerhouse when she takes on daddy... needing Kylo's assistance. Turning kylo light side just in time to die. [/LIST] [/LIST] The only "redemption arc" that doesn't wind up in a pretty immediate force ghost is Luke himself... but he, too, goes to be one with the Force. This is why I break it out from the coming of age - because for many of the characters, there's also the Coming of death element. "Luminous beings are we! Not this crude matter!" Master Yoda, Ep V [/QUOTE]

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