D&D 4E My biggest problem with upgrading to 4E

Glyfair

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I've heard a lot of cries about how 4E will make so many of their books invalid. I'm not feeling that as much. Even after 3E, I was still picking up older material and using it in my game.

However, the other night I was moving around some of my older adventures and sourcebooks. Many of them are stored in magazine boxes and fit quite well.

Unfortunately, that doesn't work very well with all the hardback books of 3.5. Prior to 3.5 every edition was mostly softcover books. Unfortunately, storage of hardbacks isn't as easy as softcovers.

I can see how some people look at their stacks of hardcover books and dread having to store them or get rid of them. It's a daunting proposition. I would find it a lot more palatable if most of them were softcover (like 3E).
 

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Glyfair said:
I've heard a lot of cries about how 4E will make so many of their books invalid. I'm not feeling that as much. Even after 3E, I was still picking up older material and using it in my game.

However, the other night I was moving around some of my older adventures and sourcebooks. Many of them are stored in magazine boxes and fit quite well.

Unfortunately, that doesn't work very well with all the hardback books of 3.5. Prior to 3.5 every edition was mostly softcover books. Unfortunately, storage of hardbacks isn't as easy as softcovers.

I can see how some people look at their stacks of hardcover books and dread having to store them or get rid of them. It's a daunting proposition. I would find it a lot more palatable if most of them were softcover (like 3E).

That's why I go for PDFs with most books, since I usually use them for inspiration on mechanics and fluffs, rather than pulling them out and using them as-written during a game. I only get a rare few physical copies of certain books.
 

Glyfair said:
I can see how some people look at their stacks of hardcover books and dread having to store them or get rid of them. It's a daunting proposition. I would find it a lot more palatable if most of them were softcover (like 3E).

What ! STORE MY BOOKS ? :confused:
Heck, man ! NO WAY EVER ! ;)
 

I sold all my non-essential 3.5 books on ebay. There were a bunch that I never used, and now that there is a new edition coming out I knew that I would never use them. Yeah, some of the material can still be used, but I have precious little shelf space...and a need for $ for the next edition.
 

Softcover or hardcover has little impact for me, as I use a series of bookshelves for most of my collection. I like softcover for books that I use as reference material, but anything that I will use extensively at the gaming table I like to have in a hard cover.

I have a couple hundred pdf's that remain on my hard drive unless I'm using them alot. Then I print them and usually put in a binder. Its much easier (for me) to pass around a binder than it is to pass around my laptop.
 

The (A)D&D hardbacks on my shelf:
  • 1e: 11
  • 2e: 4 (5 if you count the Monstrous Compendium, but it is neither hardback nor on the shelf with the rest)
  • 3e: 5 (planning to get one more)
  • (Classic D&D: 1)
Seems 1e broke me of the "buy every hardback they put out" habit.

(Although I think there are two 1e hardbacks I don't have. I can't believe I used to actually lug 9 of those things to every session.)
 

Wow, there were 11 hardbacks for AD&D?

Hmmmm...I know I never had the survival guides or the MotP. I used to have UA, but it disappeared somewhere over the years (along with my basic set and my boxed set of OD&D plus the expansions).
 

Glyfair said:
Wow, there were 11 hardbacks for AD&D?

Hmmmm...I know I never had the survival guides or the MotP. I used to have UA, but it disappeared somewhere over the years (along with my basic set and my boxed set of OD&D plus the expansions).

MM, PHB, DMG, D&DG, FF, OA, MM2, UA, WSG, DSG, MotP, Dragonlance Adventures, & Greyhawk Adventures. (Though GA claimed to be 2e compatible.)

I never did get MotP or the Dragonlance or Greyhawk books. (Though I've held all of them in my hands more than once considering carrying them up to the register.) My OA & 2nd 1e PHB were later acquisitions that upped the 9 I carried to sessions to the 11 on the shelf.
 

Glyfair said:
Wow, there were 11 hardbacks for AD&D?

Hmmmm...I know I never had the survival guides or the MotP. I used to have UA, but it disappeared somewhere over the years (along with my basic set and my boxed set of OD&D plus the expansions).
Player's Handbook
Dungeon Master's Guide
Monster Manual
Fiend Folio
Deities and Demigods
Manual of the Planes
Monster Manual II
Wilderness Survival Guide
Unearthed Arcana

Those are the only hardbacks I can think of. I believe there is also a Dungeneering guide and I think that they even put out a hardcover for Dragonlance during the 1e days. Now that I think about, didn't Oriental Adventures come out in hardback for 1e?

Edit: Apparently, all my questions were answered while I was typing this post!
 
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I have the Rules Cyclopedia. I have all the 1E hardbacks (even the crappy ones). I have 2E PH, DMG, & MM. I have 3.0 PH, DMG, MM, MMII, and Book of Vile Darkness. I don't have any 3.5 hardbacks.
 

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