D&D 4E My biggest problem with upgrading to 4E

[billd91]

Unfortunately, storage of hardbacks isn't as easy as softcovers.

I can see how some people look at their stacks of hardcover books and dread having to store them or get rid of them. It's a daunting proposition. I would find it a lot more palatable if most of them were softcover (like 3E).

I have the perfect storage solution... a book shelf. Stores hardbacks even better than softcovers because they won't sag like softcovers will.

 

[Simia Saturnalia]

If I can't keep it on the bookshelves, I don't need it, and it should belong to another gamer who can give it a place of honor. I'm gonna get some of my costs back, sure, but it should find a more appreciative home.

That said, the only 3.x books that adorn my shelves can be pillaged for other games (three of the Classic Play series - some of MGP's better stuff IMO, Feats, Occult Lore, Lords of Madness, Relics & Rituals, and the first Slayer's Guide Compendium). Hell, I've got more 1e stuff, even with skipping the god books and Dragonlance Adventures.

 

[MerricB]

The only AD&D hardcover I don't have is the Wilderness Survival Guide.

Otherwise, my AD&D hardcovers are:
Player's Handbook (3 copies)
Dungeon Master's Guide (2 copies - one in disintegrated form from being used too much)
Monster Manual
Legends and Lore (alas, I don't have Deities & Demigods!)
Fiend Folio
Monster Manual II
Oriental Adventures
Unearthed Arcana
Manual of the Planes
Dungeon Survival Guide
(Wilderness Survival Guide... I wish)
Dragonlance Adventures
Greyhawk Adventures

13 hardcovers in the set.

Compared to that, I have...
6 AD&D 2e hardcovers
Player's Handbook
Dungeon Master's Guide (x2)
Monstrous Compendium
Player's Option: Skills and Powers
Player's Option: Spells and Magic
Player's Option: Combat and Tactics

And about sixty 3rd edition hardcovers...

Cheers!

 

[Mark Hope]

The only AD&D hardcover I don't have is the Wilderness Survival Guide.

Merric, you really aren't missing anything. It was very, very poor (and that's coming from someone who has a lot of love for 1e, in all its eras). The 1e DMG had all the wilderness tuff you needed - the WSG claimed to improve on that but really just added a bunch of extra information on the same topics that I never used. I think I've only cracked the book two or three times since buying it when it first came out.

Still, as a completist, I could never even contemplate selling the thing. Sad, really...

 

[billd91]

Merric, you really aren't missing anything. It was very, very poor (and that's coming from someone who has a lot of love for 1e, in all its eras). The 1e DMG had all the wilderness tuff you needed - the WSG claimed to improve on that but really just added a bunch of extra information on the same topics that I never used. I think I've only cracked the book two or three times since buying it when it first came out.

Still, as a completist, I could never even contemplate selling the thing. Sad, really...

I, on the other hand, though it was better than the Dungeoneer's Survival Guide. It had some nice discussion on pack animals in the wild as well as a useful weather system.

Both suffered from some serious conceptual problems in formulating some of the rules but I thought Wilderness was the better and more useful of the two.

 

[Mishihari Lord]

Merric, you really aren't missing anything. It was very, very poor (and that's coming from someone who has a lot of love for 1e, in all its eras). The 1e DMG had all the wilderness tuff you needed - the WSG claimed to improve on that but really just added a bunch of extra information on the same topics that I never used. I think I've only cracked the book two or three times since buying it when it first came out.

Still, as a completist, I could never even contemplate selling the thing. Sad, really...

I liked it a it too and got a lot of use out of it.

 

[Howndawg]

I've heard a lot of cries about how 4E will make so many of their books invalid. I'm not feeling that as much. Even after 3E, I was still picking up older material and using it in my game.

However, the other night I was moving around some of my older adventures and sourcebooks. Many of them are stored in magazine boxes and fit quite well.

Unfortunately, that doesn't work very well with all the hardback books of 3.5. Prior to 3.5 every edition was mostly softcover books. Unfortunately, storage of hardbacks isn't as easy as softcovers.

I can see how some people look at their stacks of hardcover books and dread having to store them or get rid of them. It's a daunting proposition. I would find it a lot more palatable if most of them were softcover (like 3E).

Perhaps line them up on your bookshelf like a Time-Life series of books.

Howndawg

 

[Glyfair]

Perhaps line them up on your bookshelf like a Time-Life series of books.

That's where they are now. I'm going to need those shelves for 4E (assuming I switch which is close to 100% now, when I switch is the only issue).