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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Gundark" data-source="post: 4156004" data-attributes="member: 6148">Well I would have hated to have played in the game you described. This has happened to me too (not 4e) and like others have pointed out it's not a 4e thing (for me it was Savage Worlds). I don't think you are a bad DM or anything. Trying to get a bunch of people to like a game that they have already made their mind up on is frustrating at best. To be honest if it was me I would have kicked them out, not because they didn't like 4e, but because (or at least my interpretation of how you worded it) they were acting like a bunch of jerks.The constant WoW comparisons would have pissed me off in a major way.I find that the 4e D&D = WoW banner is flown (generaly) by people who have never played WoW. Are there a lot similiarites? yep. But having been a long time WoW player I'd say that the differences are stronger than the similiarities. I'm not saying that there are more differences than similarites, just that the differences are more significant when compared.It's rare that I find a WoW player call 4e MMORPGish, of course now I've said that there will be somebody who will be hitting the quote button about that  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>