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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FitzTheRuke" data-source="post: 4156422" data-attributes="member: 59816">I don't think anyone is too impressed with the wizard. I don't think that this reflects on the 4E wizard, but simply THIS 4e Wizard. He could really use a few spells that don't target reflex (apart from sleep).On the subject: I've run 9 demos with six players each for a total of 25 unique players. They ranged from brand new (never played an RPG before) to hardcore 4E hater to enthusiastic hopeful and everything in between. To my memory, I've only ever heard WoW comparisons here online, and never during my games. (Personally I've never even SEEN anyone play WoW, far or less played it myself, so I have no idea what those comparisons may be.)Every game I've had have been very positive experiences, with everyone at least enjoying the session, and they've all gone away with at least an open mind. (Many prepaid for the books afterward.) I plan on running one every sunday until the books come out (next three weeks booked with new players each.)So that's been my experience with 4E sofar, and I really enjoy running it.I've had similar experiences to what you had in various games though, but not with 4E yet. And I hope to not sound like I'm making this a 3 vs 4 arguement, but I've certainly had 3rd Edition campaigns fall appart due to player's problems with the system, and problems with other players. I mention this simply to say: This is nothing new. I concede that it COULD happen with a 4E game in the future, but so far my experiences have been overwhelmingly positive.Fitz</blockquote>

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