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Message: <blockquote data-quote="smathis" data-source="post: 4158141" data-attributes="member: 56465">Don't feel bad. I couldn't sell Savage Worlds to my group back in Florida either. They balked at the very idea. Called it a "war game".Now, I hear they play it (and Mutants & Masterminds) almost exclusively. Both games I tried to get them hooked on. Both games that they balked at.But try and bring up that I was the first one to bring these games into the group and crankiness will ensue.Maybe not all groups are like this. But in my experience, what a group plays is generally determined by the Silverbacks. If you're not one of them, then about the best you can hope for is having a working knowledge of the rules before your group switches.Case in point. I tried getting that group to play M&M 1st ed. the week after it came out. The group eventually gave me a shot at it and one of the guys who's cranky enough to drive the group in his direction immediately tanked up on Toughness and spent the rest of the night attempting to break the system with stuff he'd obviously read on internet forums -- judging that he was attempting to exploit weaknesses in the system without having cracked a book.About a month later, I got a copy of M&M and gave it to one of the other Silverbacks. We were playing it within three weeks and, to my knowledge, they're still playing it -- with no intention of moving to 2e.No one -- not even the guy I bought the book for -- owns up to my efforts to get the group to try it out in the first place.Again, maybe not all groups are like this. But I've been in a LOT of groups in states all over the country and I've found that a lot of times getting a group to try something new depends more on where you stand in the food chain than the game you're wanting to play.Call it Group Politics. Call it Social Dynamics. But it's all about respect.Just like Aretha Franklin says.</blockquote>

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