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My Paladin killed a.. 2nd thread (The Verdict is IN - p4)
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<blockquote data-quote="Agemegos" data-source="post: 1566776" data-attributes="member: 18377"><p><strong>A pre-emptive clarification</strong></p><p></p><p>Duties in a far land [spoiler]which has time zone GMT +10 hours[/spoiler] call me away for a while. And so begging the indulgence of the court I will anticipate the emergence of a number of issue that I believe will come to be of concern to the court.</p><p></p><p>If Sir Vindicator is charged with <em>willfully committing an evil</em> act I will vote <strong>Not Guilty</strong>. His act was wrong, but unLawful, not Evil, and certainly he did not mean harm by it.</p><p></p><p>If he is charged with <em>associating with an evil character</em> I will vote <strong>Not Guilty</strong> with an indignant tone in my voice.</p><p></p><p>If he is charged with <em>grossly violating the Code of Conduct</em> I will vote <strong>Not Guilty</strong>, because I believe that his action a grave breach of the code but not a gross one. My argument is that striking down a defenceless man is dishonourable, that such a shabby and surreptitious way of punishing the wicked is disrespectful to authority (though conducting a proper trial on his own authority might not have been), and that this course of action was not needed to protect the innocent and punish the guilty (though it did achieve those ends).</p><p></p><p>If it is charged that he is not of <em>Lawful Good alignment</em> I will vote <strong>Not Proven</strong> and thank God for Scottish jurisprudence. I believe we have to see more of his actions to make that judgement. If he recognises the wrongness of his action in its contempt even for his own authority we will be able to tell because he will attempt to repair the harm he did. (For example, he might plead guilty to a manslaughter and pay a wergild, strive to restore the majesty of the law that he defamed, and strive to discover whent the man he killed had any accomplices.) Then we will know that he is still Lawful Good and Not Guilty. But if he acts with insouicance or self-righteousness we will know that he does not understand the wrongness of his action, is not Lawful, and is Guilty.</p><p></p><p>As for punishments: if he is condemned of any of the charges above he is unfit to hold the office of a Paladin, and may not exercise any of the powers of that office. If he remains in that office, it would be wrong to take away any part of his power to discharge its duties. The powers of a paladin are for the service of others: they are not personal property. Taking them away harms those the paladin serves and protects, not the paladin. The same is true of making the paladin destroy his sword, or forswear the use of any weapon. Besides, I doubt the authority of this court to impose any such penalty.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Agemegos, post: 1566776, member: 18377"] [b]A pre-emptive clarification[/b] Duties in a far land [spoiler]which has time zone GMT +10 hours[/spoiler] call me away for a while. And so begging the indulgence of the court I will anticipate the emergence of a number of issue that I believe will come to be of concern to the court. If Sir Vindicator is charged with [i]willfully committing an evil[/i] act I will vote [b]Not Guilty[/b]. His act was wrong, but unLawful, not Evil, and certainly he did not mean harm by it. If he is charged with [i]associating with an evil character[/i] I will vote [b]Not Guilty[/b] with an indignant tone in my voice. If he is charged with [i]grossly violating the Code of Conduct[/i] I will vote [b]Not Guilty[/b], because I believe that his action a grave breach of the code but not a gross one. My argument is that striking down a defenceless man is dishonourable, that such a shabby and surreptitious way of punishing the wicked is disrespectful to authority (though conducting a proper trial on his own authority might not have been), and that this course of action was not needed to protect the innocent and punish the guilty (though it did achieve those ends). If it is charged that he is not of [i]Lawful Good alignment[/i] I will vote [b]Not Proven[/b] and thank God for Scottish jurisprudence. I believe we have to see more of his actions to make that judgement. If he recognises the wrongness of his action in its contempt even for his own authority we will be able to tell because he will attempt to repair the harm he did. (For example, he might plead guilty to a manslaughter and pay a wergild, strive to restore the majesty of the law that he defamed, and strive to discover whent the man he killed had any accomplices.) Then we will know that he is still Lawful Good and Not Guilty. But if he acts with insouicance or self-righteousness we will know that he does not understand the wrongness of his action, is not Lawful, and is Guilty. As for punishments: if he is condemned of any of the charges above he is unfit to hold the office of a Paladin, and may not exercise any of the powers of that office. If he remains in that office, it would be wrong to take away any part of his power to discharge its duties. The powers of a paladin are for the service of others: they are not personal property. Taking them away harms those the paladin serves and protects, not the paladin. The same is true of making the paladin destroy his sword, or forswear the use of any weapon. Besides, I doubt the authority of this court to impose any such penalty. [/QUOTE]
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