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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 8899587" data-attributes="member: 93670">The point is that a tier1 PC(L1-4?) &amp; a tier2 PC (L5-9?)/tier3 PC(L10-16?)/tier4(L17+) face different challenges.&nbsp; There used to be <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/giving-an-ad-d-feel-to-5e.679228/post-8241363" target="_blank">a mechanic</a> that the GM could use to adjust the values as appropriate (which is pretty much what the dc5-dc43 table shows) but 5e moved away from that kind of thing in favor of <a href="https://thealexandrian.net/wordpress/48414/roleplaying-games/1dd-the-5e-skill-system-is-bad" target="_blank">bounded accuracy</a> &amp; what [USER=29398]@Lanefan[/USER] eloquently summarized as overusing advantage/disadvantage&nbsp; &quot;to the point of absurdity&quot; resulting in a situation where players feel cheated opts to give bob DCs that enable <a href="https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CompetencePorn" target="_blank">competence porn</a> rather than everything just having the world turn into an endless chain if <a href="https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AbsurdlyIneffectiveBarricade" target="_blank">Absurdly Ineffective Barricades</a> once the party crosses the bounds of &quot;bounded&quot; accuracy.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 8899587, member: 93670"] The point is that a tier1 PC(L1-4?) & a tier2 PC (L5-9?)/tier3 PC(L10-16?)/tier4(L17+) face different challenges. There used to be [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/giving-an-ad-d-feel-to-5e.679228/post-8241363']a mechanic[/URL] that the GM could use to adjust the values as appropriate (which is pretty much what the dc5-dc43 table shows) but 5e moved away from that kind of thing in favor of [URL='https://thealexandrian.net/wordpress/48414/roleplaying-games/1dd-the-5e-skill-system-is-bad']bounded accuracy[/URL] & what [USER=29398]@Lanefan[/USER] eloquently summarized as overusing advantage/disadvantage [I]"to the point of absurdity" [/I]resulting in a situation where players feel cheated opts to give bob DCs that enable [URL='https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CompetencePorn']competence porn[/URL] rather than everything just having the world turn into an endless chain if [URL='https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AbsurdlyIneffectiveBarricade']Absurdly Ineffective Barricades[/URL] once the party crosses the bounds of "bounded" accuracy. [/QUOTE]

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