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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JohnSnow" data-source="post: 3450438" data-attributes="member: 32164">Okay, this is not intended to be defensive, but to explain my reasoning. Well, it depends on whether you think that a woodsman type character is a viable archetype in a pseudo-medieval fantasy setting. Personally, I think there's a relatively strong distinction between fighters (characters who train to fight PEOPLE) and hunter/tracker types. My intention was for the ranger class to fill that hunter/tracker/scout niche. As such, ranger may have been a bad choice of label for the class, carrying with it as it does, the D&D baggage of a class that's a better fighter than the fighter.Yes, one could argue that it reduces to a talent tree. But at some level, one can make that argument about any class. Quite honestly, I think D&D has covered the scout archetype with at least 4 classes: ranger, druid, scout, ninja and with the right skill selections, rogue.I guess it's a personal bias, but I don't particularly like "magician" as a class title. It seems kinda boring to me. I don't usually worry about psionic/mentalist characters, but yeah, I suppose it would cover those as well. My personal favorite class title for the concept is "Adept" but I was worried that would be confusing.As for whether multiclassing will be necessary, I haven't decided that. I want to see how Saga handles non-Jedi force users, to see if I can get any inspiration from that. Possibly, characters will be able to use magic without multiclassing, and the spellcaster will represent a class that's basically devoted to spellcasting (but is still adventure-worthy).To me, "Noble" is a broader character concept than "bard." Bard tends to imply the social specialist, wandering minstrel type. Noble covers characters with both social skills and good education. To draw a more modern adventure parallel, think of the characters in The Mummy. O'Connell is a fighter (duh), Jonathan is a Scoundrel, and Evie is a Noble. She's from good family, well-educated, plucky, and charming.Or, put another way, by using different classes, you could build two kinds of bards (before even talking about whether they have any spellcasting talent):Wandering minstrel - Rogue, with perform. Character who lives by his wits and charm.Celtic Bard - Noble, with perform. Character with education who digs for ancient lore.In Medieval settings, nobles were usually the ones with a good education. The rogue is the more self-educated, living on his wits character.Again, I'm not being defensive, just trying to explain my reasoning.</blockquote>

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