D&D 5E Mystic Speculation

[Enevhar Aldarion]

Alright folks, Mike Mearls put out several tweets tonight about the Mystic, with this being the main one:

"Finished level 1-20 design on the mystic before the end of the year. Six orders, ~50 disciplines, one fighter subclass (sohei)."

followed by this:

"Sohei shifted over to psi because I didn't like keeping it divine once you stack it up against PHB characters."

I wonder how much from previous UA articles are in this current version and what is new. I am definitely looking forward to the next update, whenever it hits UA again.

 

[The Myopic Sniper]

I am not exactly thrilled by giving overt orientalism flavor to the psionic Fighter subclass. At this point, calling it a generic Western term with a sidebar saying "In Asian flavored campaigns the fighter archetypes Battleminds might be referred to as Sohei and Honorable Knights might be considered Samurai" seems a bit more tenable. It isn't a dealbreaker though and I don't think it is malicious, it just looks a bit dated more than anything.

 

[Leatherhead]

The usual suspects:

Seer (Clairsentience) aka precognitive powers
Shaper (Metacreativity) aka the one that makes constructs out of dream-stuff
Kineticist (Psychokinesis) aka the ones who light fires with their minds
Egoist (Psychometabolism) aka the healer/shapeshifter
Nomad (Psychoportation) aka the teleporter
Telepath (Telepathy) aka the mind controler/reader

 

[Duan'duliir]

One of the orders will be knife, as per mearls on the 28th.

"Was last i looked at the file - six orders, plus a fighter subclass; but d8 HD, so melee type is in class #wotcstaff"

Which was said in reply to Tokumei:

"@mikemearls
Hey Mearls just curious is the order of the knife for the Mystic still going to be a thing?"

Since we already have Immortal and Awakened, and Knife is confirmed, we can assume that the Invisible Hand mentioned in the first Mystic playtest is going to be one of the subclasses. Any ideas as to the other two given the existing options?

- Zynx, from the EN World mobile app

 

[Sword of Spirit]

Hmmm...I'm not sure I like sohei as psionic. In contrast to what Mr. Mearls is saying, I think making it psionic will really throws it out of alignment with the other classes. It ought to be divine, or at least ki. I just can't see how making it a completely different power source than the two most conceptually related concepts (cleric and monk) makes a whit of sense.

 

[Edwin Suijkerbuijk]

Hmmm...I'm not sure I like sohei as psionic. In contrast to what Mr. Mearls is saying, I think making it psionic will really throws it out of alignment with the other classes. It ought to be divine, or at least ki. I just can't see how making it a completely different power source than the two most conceptually related concepts (cleric and monk) makes a whit of sense.

In DnD 4th the monk was considered a psionic class ( psicometabolic/ mind over body powers).

Would a section/sidebar that sais that in many oriental setting people refer to psy points as Ki help in any way ?

 

[Inchoroi]

I just want a bloody release date! rages

 

[Sorcerers Apprentice]

In DnD 4th the monk was considered a psionic class ( psicometabolic/ mind over body powers).

Would a section/sidebar that sais that in many oriental setting people refer to psy points as Ki help in any way ?

Then you'll soon start to wonder why psy/ki points aren't interchangeable among classes for multiclass mystics/monks the way spell slots are.

 

[OB1]

Then you'll soon start to wonder why psy/ki points aren't interchangeable among classes for multiclass mystics/monks the way spell slots are.

In my survey feedback to the last UA Mystic I actually asked that Ki be the mechanism by which Psy works. Think it makes a lot of sense to overlap the two concepts.

 

[Vicar In A Tutu]

I wish the class was called "psionist" instead of "mystic". The latter just seems so generic and could easily encompass other classes. Couldn't "mystic" easily also include "wizard" and "cleric"? Psionist is a lot less generic. I hope they keep the flavour of the Dark Sun psionics.