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Message: <blockquote data-quote="nittanytbone" data-source="post: 2622982" data-attributes="member: 35709">I've never played one but MTs seem to have some significant liabilities.You basically throw away all your cleric benefits:  High hit points get watered down by unimpressive MT hit dice, you lose out on at least a spell level, turn undead becomes relatively useless, and you're not going to making good use of armor.Many of your wizard benefits also get lost, especially bonus feats and those higher spell levels.  You also miss out on the open wizard class skill list;  MTs are quite restricted in what skills they can use.I think a better solution would be to be a cleric with one level of sorcerer or an arcane caster that front-loaded cleric.Cleric with one level of sorcerer:  Clerics and sorcerers both need good charisma, so sorcerer is a natural combination. If you pick your two spells carefully (flare, true strike. hold portal, and featherfall all require no somatic component, so you can use them in heavy armor) and rely on wands, staves, and scrolls, you should be able to gain a good degree of flexibility.  Additionally, you can pick up a few ranks in bluff as a sorcerer which grants nice social synergies.  Picking a domain such as "fire" can give you access to some of the flashier damage spells like burning hands.Arcane with one level of cleric:  If you front-load cleric, then you gain 4 extra hit points and access to a few different skills.  You also pick up at least three spells a day and if you pick domains that are useful even if you have a low cleric level such as Luck and War then you're in business.  The ability to wear armor can be useful, especially if you invest in mithril gear and accept a small chance of spell failure.  Judicious use of spell-trigger items as before gives you a lot of flexibility.</blockquote>

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